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I think he means that since Hill's show is already so low in the ratings that they aren't getting much advertising dollars for her anyway.

I can see that point. They still get the subscription money regardless of how badly Hill's show does but her advertising revenue can be affected. However, if she's not getting much anyway then it's really not a big deal for them.

I think that was his point anyway.

This is accurate. SC6 and Hill are on a primetime slot for sure and they probably will flame out and they'll go back to something like PTI and Around The Horn, or just the traditional Sportscenter. But given what they're selling on ads during actual games compared to 6pm on weekdays AND subscription fees you're talking about peanuts.

People won't accept that because they want to think so badly that them being too liberal is costing them big bucks but its not. It's not politics, its math, you can see it for yourself if you actually try.

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Posted by roadGator

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Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:12 am to mwade91383

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It's not politics

Is it fair to say that their politics are certainly not helping with their keeping their customer base?

For instance, I cut the cord. I only add sports channels when it's football season.

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Posted by JasonMason

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Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:14 am to mwade91383

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People won't accept that because they want to think so badly that them being too liberal is costing them big bucks but its not. It's not politics, its math, you can see it for yourself if you actually try.

That's literally what I said. Maybe you didn't mean to attribute that to me earlier, but this is what I said. The drop in ratings for the OC shows is obviously causing a loss in ad revenue, but it does not have nearly the affect that losing the ad revenue on live sports does. Especially with the growing contracts.

The SJW (not liberal) stuff is playing a part in the demise, but it's small in comparison for ESPNs inability to adapt to a changing landscape and overpaying for league rights. I agree that people are overstating the SJW bent on ESPNs demise, but IMO it's going to get to the point that people just associate ESPN with their personalities like Hill that they don't like and they'll stop watching the random football game or baseball game just because it's sports because they'll actively avoid ESPN.

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber

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Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:15 am to mwade91383