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re: Tesla Semi could be ‘the biggest catalyst in trucking in decades’

Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11054 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:18 pm to
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My guess
The foundation for many of your arguments.

FTR, I'm not anti-elelectric/autonomous nor do I think Musk is undertaking some sort of conspiracy, merely that his tactics mirror one that already occurred but that could not be reproduced in the current environment.

My basic argument continues to be that Musk and his Greek chorus of acolytes are overstating and overreaching in order to gain financial and political favor that will, ultimately, further line Musk's and his stakeholders' pockets.

If that analysis sullies the god-like image some of you seem to have about ole Elon, well, welcome to the real world...
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28732 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:38 pm to
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My guess
The foundation for many of your arguments.
Do you have an alternative way to discuss the future? Should I instead predict, speculate, surmise, or prognosticate? Or do you have a crystal ball I can borrow?
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merely that his tactics mirror one that already occurred but that could not be reproduced in the current environment.
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My basic argument continues to be that Musk and his Greek chorus of acolytes are overstating and overreaching in order to gain financial and political favor that will, ultimately, further line Musk's and his stakeholders' pockets.
First of all, is it supposed to be some sort of insult that he's out to acquire wealth? Isn't that what we all wake up every morning to do? Line our own pockets? Musk is just better at it than most.

Second, Musk is probably the last incredibly rich guy who should be accused of just trying to further line his own pockets. He has given away a lot of Tesla patents. He "invented" the hyperloop and told the world to have at it. His goals are basically to go to Mars and to save Earth. As opposed to most people who create things in order to accumulate wealth, fame, and power, Musk seems to accumulate wealth, fame, and power in order to create and do more things.
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If that analysis sullies the god-like image some of you seem to have about ole Elon, well, welcome to the real world...
Ah, I see, so you're just jealous. It's ok to be jealous, we all are from time to time. Just try not to let the jealousy turn to hate. It tends to frick with our judgment. That's some real world shite for you.

Besides, what difference would it make if he were just trying to line his pockets? He has an established history of (yes) overstating a bit, but also of actually delivering on his word. He said he would build spaceships, so he went ahead and built spaceships. Launches have never been cheaper. He said he would build electric cars (at a time most thought all-electric plug-ins were silly), and he went ahead and built them. I don't think any vehicle has a higher owner satisfaction rating. He said he would build the biggest battery factory in the world, and he's doing that, too.

So, you'll have to forgive me if, when the man says he's going to build a god-damned semi truck, that I believe he's going to build it. And I also believe that the trucking industry will move in the autonomous electric direction, because economics dictate that it MUST. The two largest expenses in the industry are fuel and driver pay, so you'd have to be a fool to think they won't try to minimize those. And it's not hard to imagine Musk leading the way, just as he has in nearly everything else he puts his mind to.
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