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re: Deep State / Shadow Government overview from CIA whistleblower (new documentary)

Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:58 pm to
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Kevin Shipp was a decorated CIA officer who refused to look the other way in regard to government criminality and cover-up


Shipp was on a radio show called "The Power Hour" last week, he's seems legit. He had a good QA with the show's callers. I'll definitely be searching for more Shipp related interviews.
Posted by Virgo
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:53 pm to
I read through the whole JFK speech, and I feel that the following quote was taken out of context:

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For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.


These sentences alone, along with JFK's denouncing of secret societies, makes one think of the deep state and shadow government. But I think he is referring to Russian Cold War spies. I think JFK is asking the media to use restraint in what it publishes because enemies of America are obtaining information related to national security too easily through the media.

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For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.


He does ask the media to be very honest and objective regarding his administration so that the public can be honestly and fully informed.

For the record, I am in agreement that there is a machine behind the scenes, that the shadow government serves the deep state; I just think this JFK speech is addressing something different.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 11:00 pm
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