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Yakuza Kiwami

Posted on 8/28/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 2:50 pm
Anyone getting? I pre-ordered the steelbook through Amazon, but it's not showing as shipping until release day. Gives me time to finish up FF12.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14513 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Anyone getting? I pre-ordered the steelbook through Amazon, but it's not showing as shipping until release day. Gives me time to finish up FF12.

I'm getting it. I've already played and beaten the first game, but the steelbook was an easy sell for me. Love the series.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9782 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 3:04 pm to
It's basically a re-skin of Yakuza 0, but it's a great follow up to the story of 0 and a way to experience the story of the first game without having to play the archaic PS2 version. The asking price of only $30 is nice too.

I expect us to get Kiwami 2 later on as well. I've seen footage of the Dragon Engine with Yakuza 6, and it looks amazing. Excited to eventually be able to play through the entire main franchise with modern mechanics.

I just wish we got Ishin. That's one game I'd love to import some day.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14513 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 3:08 pm to
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It's basically a re-skin of Yakuza 0

I don't think that's very fair. It's a good game in its own right.
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I just wish we got Ishin. That's one game I'd love to import some day.

Same. It came out at a time when Sega was very reluctant to localize anything from the series.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9782 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 3:24 pm to
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I don't think that's very fair. It's a good game in its own right.


It is, but I think it's established that it is pretty much a copy/paste with certain aspects changed to fit the time period.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I am looking forward to the dragon engine.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 4:07 pm to
Picking up my reserve tonight. Also, Yakuza Kiwami 2 was announced for release in Japan. We will see it around late 2018 or early 2019. 2 is the only Yakuza game I haven't played.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:17 pm to
I've never played a single Yakuza game. Which should I start with?
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10855 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:32 pm to
0, it's my game of the year so far.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9782 posts
Posted on 8/28/17 at 6:21 pm to
I started with 4, which was not a good introduction at all. You get cutscene recaps of the previous games if you want to sit through them.

0 is the perfect starting point and playing through that improves the story of Kiwami.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:03 am to
Same. My GOTY so far, too. It's like Metal Gear with gangsters
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14513 posts
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:36 am to
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I've never played a single Yakuza game. Which should I start with?

Either get Yakuza 0 (which came out this year) or start with this. It's a remake of the first game.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 4:37 pm to
Bumping this thread to say the Majima Everywhere system brings much funny.

Just visited a cabaret club and he appeared
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:41 pm to
Kiwami is a remake of the first game? If so, ill probably go with it first. I usually like to play games by order of release, not necessarily chronologically.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:05 pm to
Remake of first game with some additions, lots of mini-games from Zero and Majima Everywhere leveling system.

I love it, but it's a watered down version of Zero in the various activities outside of the main story. KIRYU-CHAN
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8629 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:17 pm to
so if I get this game do I need to have played zero to understand?
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:29 pm to
No, but it helps. You're nit gonna get some references or understand their weight, but main story is self-contained.

I'd still recommend Zero before Kiwami, though.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14513 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:20 am to
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so if I get this game do I need to have played zero to understand?


No. You won't be confused by anything. All playing through Zero will do is give some more background info for the first game.

It's still very good though. Worth your time.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10855 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:58 am to
Still waiting on my copy to get here, delayed because of Harvey
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9782 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:08 pm to
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so if I get this game do I need to have played zero to understand?


I'm on chapter 6, but I wouldn't say playing Zero is essential to understanding Kiwami. Yakuza Kiwami is a remake of the very first game in the franchise. Obviously, it's what all the other games in the main franchise built off of.

Yakuza 0 is a standalone story set in the 1980s before the events of the first game. You get a little bit of background on Kiryu and Majima's past, but it's not at all necessary from a storyline perspective.

I would encourage anyone to play 0 before Kiwami for two reasons. First, 0 is (thus far the better game. The story is longer, there are more side activities and substories (the substories in Kiwami are also not as entertaining as they are in 0), and there are two cities to explore instead of just Kamurocho.

Secondly, and I'll just come right out and say it since it happens in like the first 10 minutes of Kiwami, your best bro Nishikiyama turns to the dark side and is your primary antagonist. I feel that playing through 0 first fleshes out Nishikiyama's character that much more.

Overall, if you're on the fence about the series, I understand the appeal of Kiwami. It's cheaper brand new than a used copy of Yakuza 0 and is also a solid starting point to get into the franchise. If you have no prior experience with the franchise though, I would strongly suggest starting with the better game between the two so that you can get the best idea of why people really like these games.

Kiwami is much more a game about fan service. It's $30 price tag is an admission that what you're getting isn't really the full experience. It's essentially an expansion pack for 0 with content based on the first Yakuza game.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9782 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 7:36 pm to
Beat it tonight. A lot of feels in that ending.
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