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re: BASS Makes Louisiana "Off Limits"
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:11 am to Capt ST
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:11 am to Capt ST
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Just have everything not gated open
It's not that simple. Dang near everything that's worth fishing south of I-10 is technically private waters by current Louisiana laws and statutes. Nearly all that are in a boat are trespassers even the manager that runs off trespassers for trespassing. He has to cross someone else's private area to get to his. That's how screwed up it is.
It seems to be getting more and more attention, and it's clear Louisiana is leaving money on the table, at a time when the bread winner in this state (Oil and Gas) is bringing in a fraction of what it was historically...
This goes beyond what we think of some a-hole in a glitter boat doing 70+ mph..
There needs to be a solution...
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:12 am to Capt ST
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If the bassholes didn't cheat so damn much it wouldn't be an issue in these tourneys.
That is a good way to look at it. just don't cheat. Simple as that.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:36 am to Elusiveporpi
If it is navigable it should be fishable to all.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:37 am to rballa19
quote:
rich landowners.
im not rich?
but I still have to pay friggan taxes on land covered in water...
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:47 am to Janky
quote:Of your land is walkable, it should be huntable to all.
If it is navigable it should be fishable to all.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:49 am to maisweh
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but I still have to pay friggan taxes on land covered in water...
I'm curious, what is the typical tax rate for submerged lands?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:53 am to Janky
A lot of our stuff is man made oil field canals, it's all tidal but man made canals. It's not a natural waterway
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:57 am to PolyPusher86
That matters not to me. I am fishing the water not the land. That water is fed from a public body of water. As for hunting land that is an interesting point. However, I don't hunt so it doesn't matter to me.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:01 am to PolyPusher86
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A lot of our stuff is man made oil field canals, it's all tidal but man made canals. It's not a natural waterway
Many of those canals have changed the hydrology of the region and have caused the natural ones to silt in. Also, many of those canals were dug where a natural water body once traversed, widening it to allow larger vessels to bring in equipment making the natural water body nonexistent.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:06 am to Dock Holiday
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I'm curious, what is the typical tax rate for submerged lands?
just like regular property tax...
and they screw us coming and going, if I want to fill it in, corps of engineers wants me to pay more $$$ to create wetlands somewhere else
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:13 am to Dock Holiday
quote:If proven, it's public. Next.
Many of those canals have changed the hydrology of the region and have caused the natural ones to silt in
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:41 am to maisweh
quote:
just like regular property tax
Really? We have family land that is mostly swamp, bordered on 2 sides by water and has no roads to it. We pay pennies on the dollar for taxes compared to my residential property tax.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:48 am to Dock Holiday
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Really? We have family land that is mostly swamp, bordered on 2 sides by water and has no roads to it. We pay pennies on the dollar for taxes compared to my residential property tax.
I'd have to go back and check the rates on it, but I'm pretty sure its just the regular tax rate BUT its also not valued nearly as high as my residence
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:53 am to AlxTgr
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If proven, it's public. Next.
That was my point in the comment. You can't just say it's a manmade canal and thus private, it's not that simple. If that was the case many marina's would have to shut down due to boats not being able to legally leave the dock. Venice, Myrtle Grove, Coco Marina, Flgout Canal Marina, Doiron's Marina, Breton Sound Marina, etc, etc... all are directly tied to man made canals. The list is endless...
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:59 am to Dock Holiday
quote:You really can. There's lots of things that must be proven to change the identity of the waterway.
You can't just say it's a manmade canal and thus private, it's not that simple.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:00 am to maisweh
what would be your recourse for not paying the taxes? loose mineral rights? loose the permanent structure on it?
If it's mostly tidal marsh and you can move about at will, why would anyone pay taxes on it? I'm genuinely curious how the tax angle plays into all of this. What taxes would the area stand to loose?
If it's mostly tidal marsh and you can move about at will, why would anyone pay taxes on it? I'm genuinely curious how the tax angle plays into all of this. What taxes would the area stand to loose?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:01 am to Dock Holiday
Most likely a Sheriff's sale of the entire tract.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:07 am to AlxTgr
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You really can. There's lots of things that must be proven to change the identity of the waterway.
Well I know that, but given the magnitude of the situation the task you speak of could take decades, as it would have to be done on a case by case basis.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:16 am to Dock Holiday
You know, those damages in the Catahoula decision will end up being pennies when the State is sued for taking all these waterways that were not navigable in 1812.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:21 am to AlxTgr
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Catahoula decision
I don't even want to touch that one. It's radioactive right now
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