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re: Mid-Terms Depend on Mueller
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:12 pm to Hawkeye95
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:12 pm to Hawkeye95
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They were successful in 2008, as they had a message!
Well - it was still, "We're not W!" Now, couple that with just how bad W. had been, Obama's charm and demographic novelty - and THAT was a winning combination.
One that will be difficult to replicate, IMHO. The Dems have a clear identity crisis. If they pivot back to the white working class, they're literally turning their backs on the identity politics monopoly they've worked half a century to cultivate. If they double down on identity and victim politics, I think they continue to lose ground.
Again, JMHO.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:18 pm to Ace Midnight
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Well - it was still, "We're not W!" Now, couple that with just how bad W. had been, Obama's charm and demographic novelty - and THAT was a winning combination.
Which is funny, in hindsight, since they all loved W after Obama legt office and they figured out Trump is actually their President. Bush hadn't been discussed so favorably in over a decade.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:20 pm to Ace Midnight
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They were successful in 2008, as they had a message!
Well - it was still, "We're not W!" Now, couple that with just how bad W. had been, Obama's charm and demographic novelty - and THAT was a winning combination.
Wrong election. This is a mid-term and much more akin to 2006.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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Well - it was still, "We're not W!" Now, couple that with just how bad W. had been, Obama's charm and demographic novelty - and THAT was a winning combination.
it was a winning combination. He destroyed mccain. But he had a message - yes we can. Plus he had a platform. Healthcare, end the endless wars, financial regulation, end bush tax cuts, immigration reform.
He flopped on most of that, but it was a pretty robust message. Certainly more than we saw from hillary last fall.
Central to that was "let us roll back all of the awful things bush did"
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One that will be difficult to replicate, IMHO. The Dems have a clear identity crisis. If they pivot back to the white working class, they're literally turning their backs on the identity politics monopoly they've worked half a century to cultivate. If they double down on identity and victim politics, I think they continue to lose ground.
They absolutely have issues with what the party looks like and stands for. Losing last fall sort brought that up. And they have to do something about it.
IMHO, Republicans are in a worse spot. Not b.c their party is more fractured but b.c winning papers over the problems. Republicans have for decades stood for conservative policies, yet trump is popular with their base and he isn't a true conservative. How are they going to reconcile it? With that said, they at least have policies to run on. What do the democrats have? $15/min wage?
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