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The H-Back position...
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:06 pm
I was watching the no-huddle higlights of Canada's offenses. One of the strengths is that it relies on using a lot of different players to keep people guessing what is coming.
Looking at our H-Back depth, it's ridiculous. You have Moreau, Moore, Mouton, Ducre, Pettigrew, Washington, Roddy(who seems to be next man up after Moore and Mouton, who would have known). I think we see most of them take used in that position.
Not to mention, D. Williams is someone who should get a lot of handoffs from that spot, as well as maybe some surprises like Drake Davis, Chark, or Dillon lining up there to take a handoff or spook the defense.
It's finally setting in how much talent we have to offer Canada. It should be a fun season.
Looking at our H-Back depth, it's ridiculous. You have Moreau, Moore, Mouton, Ducre, Pettigrew, Washington, Roddy(who seems to be next man up after Moore and Mouton, who would have known). I think we see most of them take used in that position.
Not to mention, D. Williams is someone who should get a lot of handoffs from that spot, as well as maybe some surprises like Drake Davis, Chark, or Dillon lining up there to take a handoff or spook the defense.
It's finally setting in how much talent we have to offer Canada. It should be a fun season.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:50 pm to tFearIsReal
This is a lot of the reason I'm guardedly optimistic in spite of the thin OL rotation.
The H-back spot is loaded.
The H-back spot is loaded.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:58 pm to tFearIsReal
I watched pretty much all of those videos offered up by a poster (great job by the way). even tho many of his plays were diagnosed and stopped by the respective D, he confused the hell out of every defense at times. confused me too. his H backs even ran jet sweeps at times. it was crazy; it was like, "who's gonna get the rock now?".
methinks we have one year to confuse the SEC D-coordinators. i'll bet Saban hires some coach that coached against Canada as a consultant tho and will have 2 weeks to prepare for us.
the only "flaw" I saw was how often his offense tried to reach the corners; the SEC speed is gonna make that hard to do. Etling is still gonna have to pass that ball and our WR's are still gonna have to get open.
methinks we have one year to confuse the SEC D-coordinators. i'll bet Saban hires some coach that coached against Canada as a consultant tho and will have 2 weeks to prepare for us.
the only "flaw" I saw was how often his offense tried to reach the corners; the SEC speed is gonna make that hard to do. Etling is still gonna have to pass that ball and our WR's are still gonna have to get open.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:15 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the only "flaw" I saw was how often his offense tried to reach the corners; the SEC speed is gonna make that hard to do. Etling is still gonna have to pass that ball and our WR's are still gonna have to get open.
This is where I think we will see some differences with this iteration of Canada's offense. We should have better talent on the permitter than Pitt did, thus allowing us to attack the permitter in the air and have more of a downfield/vertical attack.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:34 pm to LSU GrandDad
We also have much better RB depth then Pitt has, better OL, better TEs, well pretty much everything so LSU can run up the middle much more effectively then Pitt could. I mean that has been LSUs bread and butter, so the only thing that will change is that the linebackers will not know exactly what to defend which will make them a step slower, which will give our OL the advantage. They won't be able to just hit the gaps full speed like usual, while pulling their safeties down for the edge. They have to beware of the fakes which in this offense is very very very believable.
We won't be successful on every down but all LSU needs is (1) hole, (1) missed assignment, (1) missed tackle, ect. and we take it to the house or for 50 yards. Against the cupcakes LSU will be driving at will up and down the field. Against the tougher competition we might do that every other drive, or even every 3rd drive is still much more efficient then we've had in the past. I can say this offense will avoid 3 and outs much more then the previous offense and that's exactly what Aranda's defense's are built for. We are going to have a good season OL depth or not.
Another person you forgot to mention now playing that F or Hback position is Stevens, who just switched. I think he plays plenty there this year.
We won't be successful on every down but all LSU needs is (1) hole, (1) missed assignment, (1) missed tackle, ect. and we take it to the house or for 50 yards. Against the cupcakes LSU will be driving at will up and down the field. Against the tougher competition we might do that every other drive, or even every 3rd drive is still much more efficient then we've had in the past. I can say this offense will avoid 3 and outs much more then the previous offense and that's exactly what Aranda's defense's are built for. We are going to have a good season OL depth or not.
Another person you forgot to mention now playing that F or Hback position is Stevens, who just switched. I think he plays plenty there this year.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:18 pm to BayouBengal99
slot receiver is not the same as H-back.
As for Pitt, read somewhere they had three all conference Olinemen last year.
As for Pitt, read somewhere they had three all conference Olinemen last year.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:25 pm to BayouBengal99
Idk, but in watching that film of Pitt's offense, it looked like every time there was a lot of pre-snap movement, Pitt didn't get as many yards. I keep thinking that, well, LSU will have better personnel to execute better, but then again, that wasn't Bama's defense they were doing that to. But, I am cautiously optimistic that our offense will be better with Canada. It can't get much worse than it was.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:28 pm to tFearIsReal
Ducre is going to be a positive surprise. Very good athlete & fast, even for his size.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:50 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the only "flaw" I saw was how often his offense tried to reach the corners; the SEC speed is gonna make that hard to do.
I suspect he's already figured that out in practice.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:06 pm to tFearIsReal
You still need an dominant offensive line running the spread. There's still a lot of power runs that need to be run out of those sets to set everything else up.
The reason Ohio State beat Alabama in 2014 is because of the inside zone and a QB that could take the top off the defense.
If you can go inside, outside and over the top out of the same formation and motion action, it's nearly unstoppable.
But you need the offensive line that's able to run a power blocking scheme, a finesse outside zone read, and be solid in pass pro to throw the ball down the field.
LSU needs help before they can maximize their full potential of stockpiled skill level players.
The reason Ohio State beat Alabama in 2014 is because of the inside zone and a QB that could take the top off the defense.
If you can go inside, outside and over the top out of the same formation and motion action, it's nearly unstoppable.
But you need the offensive line that's able to run a power blocking scheme, a finesse outside zone read, and be solid in pass pro to throw the ball down the field.
LSU needs help before they can maximize their full potential of stockpiled skill level players.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:30 pm to tFearIsReal
Thaddeus Moss will be the guy next season.
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