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re: Pope Francis allies: Bannon use 'apocalyptic geopolitics' like islamic extremists
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:25 pm to DelU249
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:25 pm to DelU249
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Mom made me go talk to the priest because she was worried about me. Fortunately I wasn't molested
I can see the shame of rejection haunts you to this day.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:01 pm to kingbob
One in the same. All the inspired word of God.
You might as well spit in God's face if you think anything you are doing is earning your salvation.
You might as well spit in God's face if you think anything you are doing is earning your salvation.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:28 pm to tigerinDC09
I just got around to reading about this. My God. This is way worse than anything having to do with Bannon. Even the most left-wing Jesuits in America would never spout such rank, amateurish anti-American bigotry.
Crux: " Article by pope’s confidantes adds little to understanding Trump’s America"
Antonio Spadaro and Marcelo Figueroa are close confidantes of Pope Francis, hand-picked by him to run important Vatican media outlets. So like with much that Francis does, he uses his subordinates as attack dogs to say what he really means but is afraid to say publicly because he knows it will hurt his popularity.
These guys seemed most upset at CatholicMilitant.com. They went after Michael Voris. Michael Voris!
Church Militant: " Vatican Advisor Attacks Church Militant"
Rorate Coeli: " For the record: The Anti-American Pope - two of Francis' closest confidantes attack US, American conservatives in Pope's own journal"
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Crux: " Article by pope’s confidantes adds little to understanding Trump’s America"
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If Jesuit Father Antonio Spadaro was not the editor of La Civiltà Cattolica, his recent attack on the “ecumenism of hate” he diagnoses in the United States never would have been published in that venerable journal.
Indeed, had such a commentary on the theological roots of contemporary American politics been submitted to the Jesuit magazine America, the authors would have been invited to give it a major re-write, or better, to choose another topic altogether on which they had some expertise.
Wrong on Protestant history, ignorant of contemporary Catholic life, tendentious in its analysis, patronizing in tone and damning with faint praise the very policies of the Holy Father it seeks to defend, it is hard to understand what ambitions were had for a piece that does not even rise to the level of mediocrity.
Antonio Spadaro and Marcelo Figueroa are close confidantes of Pope Francis, hand-picked by him to run important Vatican media outlets. So like with much that Francis does, he uses his subordinates as attack dogs to say what he really means but is afraid to say publicly because he knows it will hurt his popularity.
These guys seemed most upset at CatholicMilitant.com. They went after Michael Voris. Michael Voris!
Church Militant: " Vatican Advisor Attacks Church Militant"
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Father Antonio Spadaro, S.J. is Editor-in-Chief of La Civiltà Cattolica, considered the official voice of the Vatican and whose contents are reviewed and approved by the Vatican Secretary of State before publication. Spadaro is also one of Pope Francis' closest associates and an influential advisor. In an article titled "Evangelical Fundamentalism and Catholic Integralism in the USA: A Surprising Ecumenism," published in the current issue of the journal, Spadaro goes on the attack against American conservatives, Evangelicals and President Trump, and laments "Catholic integralists" who allegedly insert politics into their work of saving souls.
Rorate Coeli: " For the record: The Anti-American Pope - two of Francis' closest confidantes attack US, American conservatives in Pope's own journal"
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The article was written in Civiltà Cattolica, the journal considered the official voice of the Vatican, and its diplomatic department (the Secretariat of State), and authored by two of the Pope's own closest confidantes, Fr. Antonio Spadaro SJ (the editor) and Argentine Presbyterian Pastor Marcelo Figueroa (shockingly, the editor of the Spanish-language edition of the journal).
Due to its unprecedented nature, and the direct attack it makes on the United States, its current administration (including President Trump and Steve Bannon, one of the President's highest advisors), American Evangelicals, Conservative Catholics in the United States (and Europe and Africa, concerned with the rise of Islamism), and even on a specific website and person (Church Militant and Michael Voris), the article's overreach is nothing if not breathtaking.
The Civiltà site is down at the moment, so before any item is changed, this is what was originally published:
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:28 pm to Doc Fenton
Seriously, just read this crap...
WTF?
As usual, Maureen Mullarkey captured the situation best...
Rorate Coeli: " In God They Don't Trust: Anti-American Syllabus in Vatican journal" by Maureen Mullarkey
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“The first thing we have to do is give a voice to our Churches,” some say. The real meaning of this type of expression is the desire for some influence in the political and parliamentary sphere and in the juridical and educational areas so that public norms can be subjected to religious morals.
Rushdoony’s doctrine maintains a theocratic necessity: submit the state to the Bible with a logic that is no different from the one that inspires Islamic fundamentalism. At heart, the narrative of terror shapes the world-views of jihadists and the new crusaders and is imbibed from wells that are not too far apart. We must not forget that the theopolitics spread by Isis is based on the same cult of an apocalypse that needs to be brought about as soon as possible. So, it is not just accidental that George W. Bush was seen as a “great crusader” by Osama bin Laden.
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Some who profess themselves to be Catholic express themselves in ways that until recently were unknown in their tradition and using tones much closer to Evangelicals. They are defined as value voters as far as attracting electoral mass support is concerned. There is a well-defined world of ecumenical convergence between sectors that are paradoxically competitors when it comes to confessional belonging. This meeting over shared objectives happens around such themes as abortion, same-sex marriage, religious education in schools and other matters generally considered moral or tied to values. Both Evangelical and Catholic Integralists condemn traditional ecumenism and yet promote an ecumenism of conflict that unites them in the nostalgic dream of a theocratic type of state.
However, the most dangerous prospect for this strange ecumenism is attributable to its xenophobic and Islamophobic vision that wants walls and purifying deportations. The word “ecumenism” transforms into a paradox, into an “ecumenism of hate.” Intolerance is a celestial mark of purism. Reductionism is the exegetical methodology. Ultra-literalism is its hermeneutical key.
WTF?
As usual, Maureen Mullarkey captured the situation best...
Rorate Coeli: " In God They Don't Trust: Anti-American Syllabus in Vatican journal" by Maureen Mullarkey
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The Spadaro-Figueroa tirade is as nasty as it is ignorant. Writing as proxies for Francis, the pair make plain their boss’ uncomprehending distaste for America—its history, its politics, and its Christianity. They have given us an accidental exposé bereft of critical reflection and with no ear for its own cant. Of a piece with longstanding European disdain for the American character and manners, the invective suggests a crippling case of status anxiety vis-à-vis the global intellectual elite it aches to ingratiate.
Our authors bolt out of the starting gate snorting suspicion of In God We Trust. The first sentence quivers with implication: “This phrase is printed on the banknotes of the United States of America.”
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In fine postmodern style, the Vatican’s learned toadies upend traditional catechetical insistence on objective evil by muttering darkly about Manichaean visions. They swat at Presidents Bush and Trump for calling evil by name. Where is that delicate papal regard slathered on the Castro thugs? They deplore the American “bond between capital and profits and arms sales,” a Bergoglian idée fixe. Francis’s men cite the meme as if it were an accepted tool of analysis rather than a facile slogan meant to silence prudential concerns about national sovereignty, civic well-being, and the rule of law.
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The ugliest point in Spadaro & Co.’s lunatic Syllabus of American Errors is its contempt for “religious groups composed mainly of whites from the deep American South.” Sound familiar? It is a riff on “bitter clingers” and “deplorables” but more candidly racist. An insinuation appropriate to academic pit stops like Evergreen State College is grotesque in the pope’s own house organ. It brings to the surface what hovers beneath Francis’ touted sympathy for the oppressed. He is concerned only with those poor-and-oppressed whose interests are useful to the Left. And the Left finds it useful to see white skin as a sign of moral defect.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:32 pm to Doc Fenton
Remember back in October when this board got itself in a tizzy over the DNC organizing liberal groups within the Catholic Church: " Archbishop Chaput - Philadelphia - Speaks on "Catholic Spring" Movement."
I made the point then, that it was fair game for the DNC to recruit liberal Catholics who loathed their conservative brethren, especially considering the ones coordinating the worst attacks against faithful Catholics came from the top of the Catholic hierarchy itself. This article, given the green light by Pope Francis himself, offers further proof of my earlier point.
Pope Francis is consumed with hatred for traditional or conservatively patriotic American Catholics in general, and "whites from the deep American South" in particular.
I made the point then, that it was fair game for the DNC to recruit liberal Catholics who loathed their conservative brethren, especially considering the ones coordinating the worst attacks against faithful Catholics came from the top of the Catholic hierarchy itself. This article, given the green light by Pope Francis himself, offers further proof of my earlier point.
Pope Francis is consumed with hatred for traditional or conservatively patriotic American Catholics in general, and "whites from the deep American South" in particular.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:46 pm to tigerinDC09
This Pope is all about defending Islam.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:43 pm to wmr
This pope like most popes are demon possessed
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:19 am to tigerinDC09
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Wonder if Bannon is going to call the Pope a Cuck
Why would you listen to anything this pope has side? shite the Catholics I know can't stand him.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:21 am to FooManChoo
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When the Pope becomes a Christian, let me know and I'll care what he has to say about Christianity.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:28 am to bamafan1001
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Catholics like to make up scripture as they go. Jesus didnt die on the cross so that people can "earn" salvation. Our "good works" are filthy rags to God.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:30 am to Breesus
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Was it before or after the party dull of drugs and little boys?
They were twirling to those techno sounds on cognac and crystal meth.
Really, the CEO of the International Child Rape Cabal, Inc. must realize how little credibility he has.
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