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re: Marco Rubio on Net Neutrality: ‘This Is a Solution in Search of a Problem’
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:48 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:48 pm to Korkstand
quote:When netflix forces me to pay them I'll be worried.
You take exception to my using the word "tax" to describe this, just because they don't have the power to imprison people?
quote:Because without delivery to your house... Netflix has no business model. That by definition... means it has value to them.
That makes them first party to the delivery transaction, and third party to the other transaction, whether that be arguing on TD or streaming Netflix. So why is that not the end of it?
quote:I thought this wasn't about privacy?
Why do you insist that my ISP have the right to inspect my purchases
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So? You are talking about advertising
Nope. I gave you an example of a company that charges it's direct competitors for access to it's customers. Curiously, it has not put their competitors out business nor ended the free market. quote:Sure. Their ISP investment should have whatever value they make from it. Just as Walmart would charge Amazon to put their "AmazonBasics" items in their stores.
Would it be ok, in your view, for Amazon the ISP to seek payment from Walmart in exchange for allowing AmazonISP's customers to access walmart.com?
quote:That's where we disagree. These sorts of middle-brokering arrangements exist all throughout our economy without causing the disasters imagined for ISPs.
We aren't exactly talking about your run-of-the-mill competitive advantage.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 2:13 pm
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:32 pm to Taxing Authority
For the nth time, cable and phone providers have a built in competitive advantage as competition is limited by government regulation (and for good reason).
If any business could run phone lines there would be hundreds of copper wires on every utility pole. It would be a dangerous mess.
Small ISPs are forced to lease those copper wires from the big 6 companies that put them up in the first place (AT&T, Cox, Comcast, etc). They are NOT ALLOWED to put their own line up next to AT&T's.
Thus it is not a true free market. But they want the regulations that limit competition while whining about the ones that protect consumers. They only want a free market when it's convenient for them.
If any business could run phone lines there would be hundreds of copper wires on every utility pole. It would be a dangerous mess.
Small ISPs are forced to lease those copper wires from the big 6 companies that put them up in the first place (AT&T, Cox, Comcast, etc). They are NOT ALLOWED to put their own line up next to AT&T's.
Thus it is not a true free market. But they want the regulations that limit competition while whining about the ones that protect consumers. They only want a free market when it's convenient for them.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 2:35 pm
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