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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:11 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:11 pm to Rickdaddy4188
"The West was shite compared to now". Another false statement the West trailed only the big 12 north and SEC east in winning pct for all conferences in the country during Sabans era. You keep knocking the competition back then even though Saban and Miles faced teams with nearly identical winning percentages and each faced the same amount of ranked teams per year. You highlight that he faced 2 top 10 sec teams but ignore the strength of the sec east teams he faced. You also won't talk about Saban having a better win pct vs the SEC and a much better win pct vs top 5 and top 10 opponents. Your arguments are always purely subjective bias when it comes to football coaches at LSU.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:24 pm
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:22 pm to Madking
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Another false statement the West
bullshite facts are facts. You can't argue that point.
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The west was shite compared to now. in 5 years Saban faced 2 west TEAMS that finished in the top 10.
Miles from 2011-2015 faced 9 west teams that finishes top 10.
these are facts.
how many title teams did Saban face while at lsu?
The factvthat you eve attempt to argue this point jist proves your bias. The west was garbage compared to the last 5 full seasons on miles tenure
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:23 pm to Madking
quote:yeah because the west was garbage. he played 2 west teams that finished in the top 10 in 5 years. miles faced 9 from 2011-2015. The facts tbat youd argue that isn't shocking.
You also won't talk about Saban having a better win pct vs the SEC
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
" The west was shite, fact". Lmfao can't argue with the math in that statement.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:27 pm to Madking
in 2000 every west team had at least 4 losses
in 2001 only 1 west team had less than 4 losses and it was lsu with 3 losses.
in 2002 only 1 west team had less than 4 losses and it was bama with 3
so 3 of Saban's 5 years at lsu every west team but 2 had 4 or more losses.
only 2 of Saban's years at lsu did a west team have less than 3 losses and you're gonna claim it wasnt garbage?
this isnt the hill you want to die on.
The west was garbage compared to 2011-2015.anyone saying otherwise is biased as frick.
shite lsu in 2011 alone faced more west teams to finish in the top 5 than Saban 's entire tenure.
in 2001 only 1 west team had less than 4 losses and it was lsu with 3 losses.
in 2002 only 1 west team had less than 4 losses and it was bama with 3
so 3 of Saban's 5 years at lsu every west team but 2 had 4 or more losses.
only 2 of Saban's years at lsu did a west team have less than 3 losses and you're gonna claim it wasnt garbage?
this isnt the hill you want to die on.
The west was garbage compared to 2011-2015.anyone saying otherwise is biased as frick.
shite lsu in 2011 alone faced more west teams to finish in the top 5 than Saban 's entire tenure.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Funny you are arguing that Miles faced better competition but his record was much worse vs better competition. Explain that plz. You do know we faced more East teams back then and the East had 3 national title contenders.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:32 pm to Madking
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Funny you are arguing that Miles faced better competition but his record was much worse vs better competition. Explain that plz.
Miles faced better competition without a doubt.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:32 pm to Madking
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Funny you are arguing that Miles faced better competition but his record was much worse vs better competition. Explain that plz.
Yeah that tends to happen when you play more teams that are good. and we have been down this road and tduecen caught you fudging the numbers or making a mistake. probably making mistake because unlike you I think enough of you to not say you purposefully lied.i do mistakes in my posting.
The fact that your even argue the west wasnt garbage compared to 2011-2015 just let's everyone know you're biased.
2000 every west team had 4 losses
2001 every west team but 1 had 4 losses
2002 every west team but 1 had 4 losses
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:34 pm to Madking
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You do know we faced more East teams back then and the East had 3 national title contenders.
what? no sec team played in the national title game during Saban's tenure.more east team played in the national title game from 2006-2008 than Saban's entire tenure at lsu.
You act like I think Saban wouldn't have done better than miles had he stayed at lsu and that's no where near the case. Saban IMO is the greatest cfb coach to ever live.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Saban had a better record vs the SEC, total not just the teams that enforce my argument, a better record vs top 10 teams a better record vs top 5 teams and a better record in championship play (sec and national title games). The irony is the only thing that's made the West slightly better now is the fact that Saban is in the west. But I love how you jump back and forth on topics as they suit your narrative. Titles don't matter because Saban was in the west but they matter when you want them too in the east even though as a whole the east was weaker post Saban. You jump back and forth on topics so much I can't keep up.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:38 pm to Madking
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Saban had a better record vs the SEC,
that tends to happen when a better coach faces worse competition.
do you really think I think miles is a better coach than Saban. do you realky think I think miles is even close to the coach that saban is? because I don't and have stated as much dozens of times brother.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:41 pm to Madking
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The irony is the only thing that's made the West slightly better now is the fact that Saban is in the west.
what?
no ole miss having 2 top 10 finishes
a&m having top 10 finishes
auburn playing in the title game twice from 2010-2013.
Mississippi State reaching #1 in the country and finishing 11th.
arky finishing 5th in the country
all of the above things make 2011-2015 west better regardless of bama.
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slightly
you're lying to yourself if you think the west was just slightly better from 2011-2015 than Saban's tebure at lsu.
brother, 60% of Saban's tenure never saw a west team with less than 3 losses.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:42 pm to Madking
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You keep knocking the competition back then even though Saban and Miles faced teams with nearly identical winning percentages and each faced the same amount of ranked teams per year.
I listed how many ranked SEC teams (east and west) each coach faced in every season they coached LSU. I used the final AP rankings for each season. Saban never faced more than 3 in any one season, and faced 12 total for the 5 years he was at LSU.
Miles never faced less than 3 per season, faced 4 teams 4 times and faced 5 teams once. He also never faced less than 17 ranked conference opponents in any 5 year span of his coaching tenure at LSU.
There were some years where there were more ranked SEC teams in the final rankings, but the numbers I showed in my post only reflects the number that LSU played.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:44 pm to earl keese
Expect a downvote.When you use facts downvotes will come.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:45 pm to boweswi05
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Expect a downvote.When you use facts downvotes will come.
if been known to gauge how right I am by the amount of down votes I get.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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all of the above things make 2011-2015 west better regardless of bama.
The only explanation for anyone to argue that the SEC in the early 2000's is just as tough as the SEC of the past 10 years or so has got to be, #1 prop up Saban and his accomplishments at LSU and #2 crap all over Miles.
Nothing else makes sense.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:53 pm to boweswi05
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Expect a downvote. When you use facts downvotes will come.
Yeah, I know.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:59 pm to axd9142a
11-2. I will give him a loss to EITHER Bama or Auburn plus one bad luck game. Anything less than that is a failure.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:00 pm to earl keese
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Nothing else makes sense.
not when this is 60% of Saban's tenure
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in 2000 every west team had at least 4 losses
in 2001 only 1 west team had less than 4 losses and it was lsu with 3 losses.
in 2002 only 1 west team had less than 4 losses and it was bama with 3
You have 18 west teams from 2000-2002.
16 of them have AT LEAST 4 losses and the remaining 2 had 3 losses.
we both know there is a portion of lsu posters on here that would rather slap their mom than admit any success lsu had was because of miles.
AND something I always thought but neber had any proof of until now is there is clearly a portion of lsu posters that simply don't mind losing 3 or 4 games as long as Miles ismr the coach and we lose whike throwing the ball rather than running the ball.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
In the 5 years he was here the west was won by LSU twice, Bama and Auburn twice. With LSU and Auburn winning the SEC title outright. Plus we had other teams (ole miss, Miss st. And arky) coming a game away from winning it. LSU went to a natty and won it and Auburn should've played for 1. Now a normal non biased person would call that parody and not weakness.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 10:11 pm
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