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Quietly, Drew Brees moves toward free agency
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted by PFT on July 11, 2017, 1:19 PM EDT
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Healthy franchise quarterbacks don’t hit the open market. Next year, two of them could.
In addition to Washington’s Kirk Cousins (who threw for more than 4,900 yards last season), Saints quarterback Drew Brees could be available to the highest bidder and/or the best chance to pursue another Super Bowl.
Last year, as Brees was entering the final year of his contract, he signed a one-year extension. Which now puts him in the same place he was a year ago — one season removed from free agency. This time around, however, there is no discussion about an extension.
“Listen, so I signed a one-year extension, so that was this year and then next year,” Brees said in January. “And so I plan on playing that out and just allowing things to take form and take shape here for next year and putting forth my absolute best effort to help us win a division championship and then a world championship. And then, again, just one year at a time, and that’s not a lack of commitment or anything like that. It’s just, I just want to focus on what’s right in front of me.”
Later in the month of January, G.M. Mickey Loomis said the team is fine with that approach.
Here’s where that approach is leading. Given the presence of a no-trade clause and a commitment not to tag Brees in 2018, he has one year under contract with the Saints. After that, who knows what will happen?
What if this year is the year that ultimately becomes Sean Payton’s final year with the Saints? (Surely, there will be a “Sunday splash” report at some point this year to that effect.) If Payton leaves for a team that needs a quarterback (and most teams that fire their head coaches do), could Brees follow?
Whether Brees stays in New Orleans or not, $18 million will count against the team’s salary cap in 2018 in his name. The cap charge from a new deal would only add to that. Which means that, if he has for example a cap charge of $20 million in 2018, the Saints would have $38 million assigned to Brees next year.
The broader question becomes whether Brees will still be regarded as a franchise quarterback after the 2017 season, when he’ll be closing in on his 39th birthday. But at a time when folks marvel at the ability of Tom Brady to thrive on the brink of 40, few seem to notice that Brees continues to be as good as ever.
In 2016, Brees had his latest 5,000-yard passing season. He’s done it five times; the rest of the NFL, since its inception, has produced a total of four.
Chances are that there will be plenty of interest in Brees come March, in New Orleans and elsewhere. Chances are that he’ll also end up getting paid a lot of money in his final NFL season before turning 40.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:56 pm to Mrwhodat
Dark days are ahead for this franchise post Brees
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:00 pm to Mrwhodat
One year "at a time" drama. The NFL media will eat it up and ratings soar.
match made in heaven
match made in heaven
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:11 pm to goatmilker
He wouldn't cost us 38 million next year.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:23 pm to Mrwhodat
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Whether Brees stays in New Orleans or not, $18 million will count against the team’s salary cap in 2018 in his name. The cap charge from a new deal would only add to that. Which means that, if he has for example a cap charge of $20 million in 2018, the Saints would have $38 million assigned to Brees next year
Yikes
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:27 pm to Mrwhodat
I feel like the national sports media is just dying for Brees and Payton to leave New Orleans for bigger markets.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:55 pm to Sparkplug#1
If he doesn't sign an extension before FA $12 mil accelerates onto next year's cap. On top of the $6 mil he counts against next year, that's $18 mil.
He legit could get a $25 mil or more deal (think $28 mil is the absolute top unless it's a one or two year).
That's a potential $43 mil hit.
But if he resigns before hitting FA we're looking at closer to $35 mil.
Good news is we have a good bit of cap with very few expensive FAs (Brees, Vaccaro, maybe Ellerbe, and I think one more I'm forgetting (not Snead as he'll be a RFA)). But if Brees hits FA and we resign him don't look for us to add a bunch of FAs or more than one or two really good ones on backloaded deals.
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And Payton is going nowhere unless we have a VERY bad year, and with Brees at QB 7-9 seems to be the floor.
He legit could get a $25 mil or more deal (think $28 mil is the absolute top unless it's a one or two year).
That's a potential $43 mil hit.
But if he resigns before hitting FA we're looking at closer to $35 mil.
Good news is we have a good bit of cap with very few expensive FAs (Brees, Vaccaro, maybe Ellerbe, and I think one more I'm forgetting (not Snead as he'll be a RFA)). But if Brees hits FA and we resign him don't look for us to add a bunch of FAs or more than one or two really good ones on backloaded deals.
Edit:
And Payton is going nowhere unless we have a VERY bad year, and with Brees at QB 7-9 seems to be the floor.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:38 pm to ipodking
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Dark days are ahead for this franchise post Brees
Eh we got the one and only super bowl he's ever going to win out of him. This franchise had lighting in a bottle that 2009 season. Glad we had him, but him being here 2-3 more years doesn't make a difference as far as championships being potentially being won, because this team is not winning another one anytime soon.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:13 pm to Covingtontiger77
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This franchise had lighting in a bottle that 2009 season
2006 and 2011 says what's up. We had our shots and at least brought it home in 09.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:45 pm to Mrwhodat
But but what about Drew retiring a Saint and becoming mayor or Nola in 2021?
Posted on 7/11/17 at 11:38 pm to Mrwhodat
Why can't we lock him up like the Patriots do with Brady?
What do they do that we don't?
What do they do that we don't?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:39 am to CBandits82
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What do they do that we don't?
Contend year in and year out?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:49 am to bonethug0108
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Edit:
And Payton is going nowhere unless we have a VERY bad year, and with Brees at QB 7-9 seems to be the floor.
Lately 7-9 seems to be the norm.
I know, I know Brees is a top 5 QB, and IF this and IF that, This guy was injured and that guy got hurt.
You know what all that means?
7-9!
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:08 am to Mrwhodat
I'm on record saying if we don't make the playoffs he gone.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:25 am to bonethug0108
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And Payton is going nowhere unless we have a VERY bad year, and with Brees at QB 7-9 seems to be the floor.
i disagree with this strongly, unless he and the team decide the Fairley/Armstead injuries are what kept them from the playoffs. No playoffs and Brees/Payton are out the door IMO.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:26 am to Covingtontiger77
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This franchise had lighting in a bottle those 2009-2011 seasons. Until Roger Goodell skull fricked this franchise into the ground for no reason and imposed harsher penalties than he's ever imposed. If he gets raped to death in front of his family that would be too good for him
Fify
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:28 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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I'm on record saying if we don't make the playoffs he gone.
If Brees and Payton both leave I hope we go get a badass defensive minded coach and we flip the franchise to defense mode. I really hope we don't try to go find some Payton-lite coach and suffer through mediocre nonsense.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:32 am to Breesus
Our first trip to the 2007 NFC championship game not too shabby either.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:42 am to bonethug0108
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If he doesn't sign an extension before FA $12 mil accelerates onto next year's cap. On top of the $6 mil he counts against next year, that's $18 mil.
He legit could get a $25 mil or more deal (think $28 mil is the absolute top unless it's a one or two year).
Carr deal was pretty huge imo in helping set the qb market imo. I know Cousins has more leverage but Give Drew a 4 year extension (help spread cap hit) at smidge more than the latest top dollared qb, i don't know how you don't have a deal.
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