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re: Marcus Spears brings the heat: Leonard Fournette was done a disservice by LSU
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:56 pm to dukke v
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:56 pm to dukke v
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Look at 1980... Walker was UNREAL that year... YOU LOOK up where he finished in yards... AGAIN.. You are A YOUNG PUNK who reads A book and posts about stats..........
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leonard Fournette of LSU finished the season as the NCAA rushing champion, the first in LSU history and the first in the SEC since 1949, according to NCAA statistics
admit you were wrong boy. facts and the ncaa record book outweigh you alcoholic brain
Posted on 7/11/17 at 7:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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. facts and the ncaa record book
I haven't seen anything yet.....
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:00 pm to BayouBengal99
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Well it is a disservice if he was easily the best athlete in CFB for 3 years yet didn't win anything for being that type of athlete and he absolutely was. I
are you joking?
his 1st year was 2014 and he wasn't the best rb in cfb.
his 2nd year he was the best rb in the country but the rest of our team was no where near the most talented team in cfb. he was hurt his 3rd year.
It's amazing that you think lsu did a disservice to some that rewrote the single season record book at lsu, ran behind a line built to run the ball,and he had one of the best sophomore seasons in sec history.
using your logic any great player that didnt win titles was done a disservice.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:04 pm to dukke v
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LSU TIGERS' Leonard Fournette wins NCAA rushing title
Leonard Fournette of LSU finished the season as the NCAA rushing champion, the first in LSU history and the first in the SEC since 1949, according to NCAA statistics.
Fournette finished the season averaging 162.8 yards per game with a school-record 1,953 yards on 300 carries. He also scored a school-record 22 rushing touchdowns. The NCAA determines its rushing champion on yards per game rather than total yards, a change made prior to the 1970 football season. Fournette played in 12 games, with the season opener against McNeese State cancelled by bad weather.
Alabama's Heisman Trophy winner Derrick Henry was second with 147.9 yards per game and Stanford's Christian McCaffrey was third with 144.2 per game. Henry led the nation in rushing yards with 2,219 and McCaffrey had 2,019.
Fournette became the first Southeastern Conference running back to lead the nation since Ole Miss' John Dottley of Ole Miss had 1,312 rushing yards. The only other SEC player to rank first in the nation Georgia's Frank Sinkwich in 1941 with 1,103 yards.
Fournette ranked No. 3 in net rushing yards (1,953), all-purpose yards (183.83), and points per game (11.5) and he finished No. 4 nationally in rushing TDs with 22.
Entering the 2016 season, Fournette has 2,987 career yards and is fourth on the school's career yardage list. Kevin Faulk holds the LSU career rushing record with 4,557 yards, followed by Dalton Hilliard (4,050), and Charles Alexander (4,035).
Scroll down for Fournette's 2015 accomplishments and records. Here's a look at the top five
Name G Att. Yards TDs Avg. Game
Leonard Fournette, LSU 12 300 1,953 22 162.8
Derrick Henry, Alabama 15 395 2,219 28 147.2
Christian McCaffrey, Stanford 13 337 2,019 8 144.2
Royce Freeman, Oregon 12 283 1,836 17 142.2
Dalvin Cook, Fla. St. 12 229 1,691 19 140.9
admit you were wrong boy
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:14 pm to 1999
LF7 was a once in a lifetime talent. However, he had limitations. Tentative at times and this seemed to be especially true against Bama. He was also quite injury prone towards the end.
Now, having said that, when he was on, it was very special to watch. I would put his talent, at his best, on par (or exceeding) Faulk, Alexander and Cannon - particularly in his ability to take over a game from the tailback position.
Now, having said that, when he was on, it was very special to watch. I would put his talent, at his best, on par (or exceeding) Faulk, Alexander and Cannon - particularly in his ability to take over a game from the tailback position.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:21 pm to Ace Midnight
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He was also quite injury prone towards the end.
He had one high ankle sprain, right? I might have missed something.
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Now, having said that, when he was on, it was very special to watch. I would put his talent, at his best, on par (or exceeding) Faulk, Alexander and Cannon - particularly in his ability to take over a game from the tailback position.
He is about 200 yards from passing Alexander and has 240 less carries than Alexander. Had he played actually 3 full seasons he would be easily #2 all time.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:22 pm to LSU GrandDad
Why. He was 100% right about LF and the miles offense. He loves Lsu but he's an sec analyst so he must take his p&g glasses off whether we like it or not
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:26 pm to 1999
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Leonard was done a disservice by LSU.
Right, he led college football RBs in yards per game, average yards gained per run, and average TDs per game. What a disservice by LSU.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 8:33 pm to LSU Groupee
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Right, he led college football RBs in yards per game, average yards gained per run, and average TDs per game. What a disservice by LSU
The notion that any rb( the focus of our offense) was done a disservice by lsu is completely absurd.
name all the rbs put in the nfl in the last decade. Now if Spears had said we underutilized qbs, wrs,and pass catching tes then fine. facts say that if you were a starting rb at lsu in the last decade you were gonna get drafted in the nfl. how many programs can say that?
We have 6 rbs on nfl roster and that's not even counting guys like addai and Hester that were starters under the last regime.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:09 pm to Darius David
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So you're the only LSU fan who doesn't know this is true? do you have a problem with messenger, or both?
no i'm not. I think Spears is spewng bull shite. Fournette had a great two years at LSU and was featured to the detriment of the rest of our offense imo. he was hurt his junior year. he was NOT done a disservice by LSU.
yes, there are people that spew that garbage that miles ruined all LSU players careers but there are a hell of a lot of them in the NFL. Fournette was the fist RB picked in the draft and a first rounder which is unusual these days for a RB to go before the second round. LSU did him a service,not a disservice.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:12 pm to LSU GrandDad
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no i'm not. I think Spears is spewng bull shite. Fournette had a great two years at LSU and was featured to the detriment of the rest of our offense imo. he was hurt his junior year. he was NOT done a disservice by LSU.
yes, there are people that spew that garbage that miles ruined all LSU players careers but there are a hell of a lot of them in the NFL. Fournette was the fist RB picked in the draft and a first rounder which is unusual these days for a RB to go before the second round. LSU did him a service,not a disservice.
spot on papaw
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:17 pm to TBoy@LSU
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Spears has issues with Miles, always has, always will. Why drag that up now? Miles is gone Leonard got paid. Time to move on.
exactly. that's what pissed me off about Spears bringing shite like this up. frick him. he was a great player for LSU but I have lost all respect for him. he's trashing us NOW? and for Fournette?
give me a fricking break.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:25 pm to 1999
Of course the offensive production was also limited by Fournet's injury throughout his last season.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:29 pm to 1999
Some people just can't let it go. Sheesh. The Miles era is over at LSU so why keep bringing this up?
If, if, if. Wow! Solid analysis by Spears. If, LSU had stopped Jalen Hurts they would have beaten Bama. But they didn't.
Fournette is gone. Great player at LSU and he loved CLM. Really doesn't matter what Marcus Spears says.
If, if, if. Wow! Solid analysis by Spears. If, LSU had stopped Jalen Hurts they would have beaten Bama. But they didn't.
Fournette is gone. Great player at LSU and he loved CLM. Really doesn't matter what Marcus Spears says.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:32 pm to LSU GrandDad
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exactly. that's what pissed me off about Spears bringing shite like this up. frick him. he was a great player for LSU but I have lost all respect for him. he's trashing us NOW? and for Fournette?
Settle down. Again, Marcus was asked if he could compare Guice to Fournette.
If you read the rest of the interview, you'd know he was excited about Canada and said Coach O is doing a great job so far of delegating to his assistants.
I don't necessarily agree with his choice of words that LSU did Fournette a "disservice", but it doesn't have to be an either/or situation. It's possible LSU was both great for Fournette AND kept him from more individual and team accomplishments because of the offensive style.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:47 pm to LSU GrandDad
Spears' loyalty is to LSU not Miles. Whether or not you think his negativity for Miles is irrational, his opinions on how Fournette was utilized do not make him a bad LSU fan. I think it's funny that, while he was the coach it was said that you must support him, but now you need to get over it.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:53 pm to burdman
Its sad he didnt play in a more innovative offense. However, I thought the biggest disservice was providing zero cover when it was clear he wasnt playing because of injury and not because he was saving himself for the draft.
All of a sudden he is being mentioned as a guy who didnt want to play with his team and being lumped in with the other guys who didnt suit up for a bowl game. Completely unfair to him.
All of a sudden he is being mentioned as a guy who didnt want to play with his team and being lumped in with the other guys who didnt suit up for a bowl game. Completely unfair to him.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
No I'm not joking you're the joke. I said best athlete for 3 years and he was. I said nothing about being the best running back did I? Learn to read before trying to come at me like that. You sound like a little whinny girl.
If LF had the metal aspect down his freshman year he would have done the same thing he did his sophomore year maybe slightly under. Then if he wouldn't of been so battered and bruised up his first couple of years he wouldn't of gotten hurt his 3rd. IDGAF what you think you know, I know and the country knows what they saw.
LF could have been put in positions to have barely been touched. I assure you the ankle wasn't his only injury either. It was the only one which slowed him down for that long but he was hurting after some of those games. If we didn't have a great team well then that falls on Les Miles ultimately, no QB, young in key areas, and this was a consistent issue with him. Again disservice.
If LF had the metal aspect down his freshman year he would have done the same thing he did his sophomore year maybe slightly under. Then if he wouldn't of been so battered and bruised up his first couple of years he wouldn't of gotten hurt his 3rd. IDGAF what you think you know, I know and the country knows what they saw.
LF could have been put in positions to have barely been touched. I assure you the ankle wasn't his only injury either. It was the only one which slowed him down for that long but he was hurting after some of those games. If we didn't have a great team well then that falls on Les Miles ultimately, no QB, young in key areas, and this was a consistent issue with him. Again disservice.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:14 pm to 1999
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Spears: Guice has more dimensions to his game, but Leonard was done a disservice by Les
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