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re: I honestly have no idea what to expect this year.....
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:39 am to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:39 am to Ponchy Tiger
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All of these are committed which mean absolutely zero, these rating don't mean anything either. All that means is what some guys opinion is. Even if all of these guys sign they still have never played a single down of college football and these ratings mean nothing.
This is 100% correct...........
Posted on 7/8/17 at 3:10 pm to Ponchy Tiger
" obviously that the talent on the roster isnt what it was@
Interesting that the cry before was, it's not the talent, its the coaching. Now, the cry appears to be that it's not the coaching, but the talent.
How many years in a row has our recruiting been in the top 10 of the nation? If we have these great coordinators now to go alone with our always outstanding talent, why the lower expectations??
Interesting that the cry before was, it's not the talent, its the coaching. Now, the cry appears to be that it's not the coaching, but the talent.
How many years in a row has our recruiting been in the top 10 of the nation? If we have these great coordinators now to go alone with our always outstanding talent, why the lower expectations??
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:13 pm to geauxcoco
Hard to get a feel on LSU's success in 2017. Senior QB, Etling is the key, not coaching.
Aranda will have the defense sound. Canada will dial up the right plays. Orgeron will manage the game, and not interfere with Aranda or Canada.
Can Etling think on his feet? That's the $64k question.
If Etling can manage the QB position, LSU will win.
Aranda will have the defense sound. Canada will dial up the right plays. Orgeron will manage the game, and not interfere with Aranda or Canada.
Can Etling think on his feet? That's the $64k question.
If Etling can manage the QB position, LSU will win.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:18 pm to BigWalt
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Canada will dial up the right plays. Orgeron will manage the game
Canada has never coached in the SEC, and while I think he will be successful, we don't know for sure. And what is O going to do if he's not interfering with Aranda and Canada? Yell at the refs? Call timeouts?
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:28 pm to BayouBengals18
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Canada has never coached in the SEC, and while I think he will be successful, we don't know for sure.
He's also never had the quality of players he does now.
Frankly, I think his ability to do more with less will be very beneficial. His injury aside, Etling appears to have limited arm strength. However, he is very good at the short game and checking down.
If Canada can capitalize on that and create holes for Guice, then he will have a lot of success this year.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:36 pm to Bmath
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Canada has never coached in the SEC, and while I think he will be successful, we don't know for sure.
He's also never had the quality of players he does now.
This is why I've repeatedly said we just have no way of knowing what this offense can do. Especially when you consider that Canada has never coached against defenses with this much talent week in and week out.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:39 pm to Bmath
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He's also never had the quality of players he does now. Frankly, I think his ability to do more with less will be very beneficial. His injury aside, Etling appears to have limited arm strength. However, he is very good at the short game and checking down. If Canada can capitalize on that and create holes for Guice, then he will have a lot of success this year.
Oh yeah, he's never had anywhere near the talent he'll get to play with this year. He seems to like using the TE/H-Back a good bit, which should play into Etling's strengths. However he uses Etling, once we get to the Bamas and Floridas of the world, we've got to be able to put their LB on their heels to open up the run game.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:43 pm to TigerLunatik
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This is why I've repeatedly said we just have no way of knowing what this offense can do. Especially when you consider that Canada has never coached against defenses with this much talent week in and week out.
Yeah, this was the point of my post. SEC defenses are just bigger and faster as a whole than any other conference. FSU and Clemson may have similar talent, but that's a couple games out of a season. I have faith that Canada can make us a lot better on O, I'm just holding off on forming an opinion until I see first hand what he does with this talent.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:46 pm to BayouBengals18
Orgeron's job is to recruit, and set/enforce team rules. Deal with the media, and the players on a personal level (when needed).
Yes - he calls timeouts at the right time, decides when to insert that trick play, or fake punt, etc...
Yes - he also should jump feet first on refs blowing calls.
HC needs to manage the team, not micro-manage the game.
He should over-see the game from the sidelines, and be looking at the play clock, and directing the OC and DC if something is out of whack.
Yes - he calls timeouts at the right time, decides when to insert that trick play, or fake punt, etc...
Yes - he also should jump feet first on refs blowing calls.
HC needs to manage the team, not micro-manage the game.
He should over-see the game from the sidelines, and be looking at the play clock, and directing the OC and DC if something is out of whack.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:48 pm to geauxcoco
Here's my prediction for everyone to criticize.
vs. BYU W 24-14 (1-0)
vs. Chatt W 38-6 (2-0)
@MSU W 28-17 (3-0)
vs. Syr W 41-7 (4-0)
vs. Troy W 35-10 (5-0)
@FLA L 21-17 (5-1)
vs. Auburn L 27-21 (5-2)
@Ole Miss W 34-17 (6-2)
@Alabama L 31-14 (6-3)
vs. Arkansas W 28-17 (7-3)
@Tennessee L 17-14 (7-4)
vs. Texas A&M W 37-16 (8-4)
vs. BYU W 24-14 (1-0)
vs. Chatt W 38-6 (2-0)
@MSU W 28-17 (3-0)
vs. Syr W 41-7 (4-0)
vs. Troy W 35-10 (5-0)
@FLA L 21-17 (5-1)
vs. Auburn L 27-21 (5-2)
@Ole Miss W 34-17 (6-2)
@Alabama L 31-14 (6-3)
vs. Arkansas W 28-17 (7-3)
@Tennessee L 17-14 (7-4)
vs. Texas A&M W 37-16 (8-4)
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:50 pm to BayouBengals18
I expect a lot of growing pains. You have to have a legitimate threat at QB play to win this conference. I think the days of having just a "Good enough" QB are long gone. We tend to hang our hat on the Flynn and Mauck comparison when we have the Etling conversations.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:51 pm to BayouBengals18
I also don't buy into that 'has never coached in the SEC'.
That is irrelevant.
Saban came from the Big 10 before he was at LSU. Urban Meyer came from Utah prior to the Florida gig.
That is irrelevant.
Saban came from the Big 10 before he was at LSU. Urban Meyer came from Utah prior to the Florida gig.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:53 pm to Bmath
Canada will do fine. He's a good coach. Etling is the key.
Can he perform while thinking on his feet? That's the biggest question coming into this season.
Can he perform while thinking on his feet? That's the biggest question coming into this season.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:57 pm to geauxcoco
This is honestly the most positivity I have seen on this topic! Refreshing.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 9:08 pm to BigWalt
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also don't buy into that 'has never coached in the SEC'
Well it's a fact. Nobody is saying Canada can't or won't succeed, just that he hasn't faced SEC defenses on a weekly basis before. But he also hasn't had this level of talent, which was also said. His offenses have had bad games at his other stops, there's no reason to be upset about having an off game in the first season of a brand new offense.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 9:09 pm to TigerFanFromBama
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We tend to hang our hat on the Flynn and Mauck comparison when we have the Etling conversations.
Very true. He should change his name to Matt.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:40 am to skullhawk
I am very optimistic about this year. Here is why.
Guice will have a heisman type of year. He will move the chains and he will score some long touchdowns and take the life out of some teams.
Our WR will have some experience with chark (poised to be a 1rd-2rd pick) and gage and have some serious potential future superstars with Anderson and drake Davis.
OL will be great not just good. Weathersby and malone on the edges with all American clapp at C and tuehema next to him is a lot of experience and talent.
On the defensive side of the ball, Arden key will have another all American year. His freshman back up Chaisson is solid We get lacouture back to add some experience along with Greg Gilmore who seems to have broken out. Also have the stud sophomores Alexander and Lawrence who are poised to have a great soph season. Herron will add senior leadership. Depth is only worry here.
LB will not be a step back at all barring injury. Donnie Alexander has every tool to be just as good or better than duke riley which is high praise. He is fast physical and has tons of experience. Devin white will prove to be the best linebacker we have had here in over 10 years. He is special. Year two he will be the man for us. We have a good bit of depth here now than we did a few years ago. Divinity, Rucker, Anthony, and Thornton will all get time.
Db- toliver and Jackson will be two of the top in American. Potential 1rd picks here as well. Kristian Fulton, greedy, and Vincent will provide quality snaps at cb and Nickel. Not worried about safety at all. Battle Delpit paris and Stevens are as good as they come. The freshman really impressed me in spring.
SP teams should be much improved in kicking game and coverage.
This year I have no worries. We could be coached by jay Lucas and stilll go 10-2.
But we have a great coaching staff to go along with this roster. The roster is not as old and experienced as last years, but has same quality.
Guice will have a heisman type of year. He will move the chains and he will score some long touchdowns and take the life out of some teams.
Our WR will have some experience with chark (poised to be a 1rd-2rd pick) and gage and have some serious potential future superstars with Anderson and drake Davis.
OL will be great not just good. Weathersby and malone on the edges with all American clapp at C and tuehema next to him is a lot of experience and talent.
On the defensive side of the ball, Arden key will have another all American year. His freshman back up Chaisson is solid We get lacouture back to add some experience along with Greg Gilmore who seems to have broken out. Also have the stud sophomores Alexander and Lawrence who are poised to have a great soph season. Herron will add senior leadership. Depth is only worry here.
LB will not be a step back at all barring injury. Donnie Alexander has every tool to be just as good or better than duke riley which is high praise. He is fast physical and has tons of experience. Devin white will prove to be the best linebacker we have had here in over 10 years. He is special. Year two he will be the man for us. We have a good bit of depth here now than we did a few years ago. Divinity, Rucker, Anthony, and Thornton will all get time.
Db- toliver and Jackson will be two of the top in American. Potential 1rd picks here as well. Kristian Fulton, greedy, and Vincent will provide quality snaps at cb and Nickel. Not worried about safety at all. Battle Delpit paris and Stevens are as good as they come. The freshman really impressed me in spring.
SP teams should be much improved in kicking game and coverage.
This year I have no worries. We could be coached by jay Lucas and stilll go 10-2.
But we have a great coaching staff to go along with this roster. The roster is not as old and experienced as last years, but has same quality.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:20 am to geauxcoco
Same. It'll be interesting going into both football and basketball seasons with lower expectations yet also a realistic expectation that both teams could surprise.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 12:44 pm to nolatrain504
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chark (poised to be a 1rd-2rd pick)
Based on what?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 12:46 pm to nolatrain504
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Depth is only worry here.
Depth is not a worry on the DL. We are loaded with elite depth.
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SP teams should be much improved in kicking game and coverage.
Based on what? We have no on-field ST coach, and our analyst was just fired by the Saints. The coaches that will be handling our ST will have bigger things to worry about on game day. Also, Growden should be more consistent this year, but we're breaking in a new XP/FG guy, and Gamble hasn't shown this huge leg he was signed for.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 12:50 pm
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