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The Pels sign Holiday using his Bird Rights, the Timberwolves have something like 22 mil in cap space even before trading away Rubio, so their cap space minus Rubio's contract would allow them to fit Jrue into their team without going over the cap. The Pels can take back Rubio plus the difference between Rubio's salary and Jrue's salary as a TPE.

For example:

Pelicans sign Jrue to a 4/110 contract (flat 27.5 per)

Minnesota fits Jrue into their cap because they have 22 in space and they are sending out Rubio (Jrue is only 27.5 mil, so he fits in easily)

Pels get back Rubio and his 14 mil in salary, and get an 13.5 mil TPE (the difference between Rubio and Jrue's salary), allowing them to stay above the cap

It's likely that Minnesota couldn't fit Jrue into their space without having to make other trades and they are attempting to trade Rubio anyway, so they could do this without the Pelicans having to give up an asset.

The concern would be whether Minny thinks they can trade Rubio elsewhere for better value and therefore open up enough cap space to fit Jrue in free agency. However, if Jrue wants to leave, I would love this deal to get Rubio AND create a nice TPE while maintain status as over the cap.

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Posted by Fun Bunch

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Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:37 am to NOSHAU

And that is the inherent problem. They almost certainly can get a lottery protected 1st round pick for him, the challenge would be not taking back any salary on their part, which is what a Jrue S&T primarily provides.

But yeah, it seems like we would need to send back more value given their advantageous situation.

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Posted by cgrand

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Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:40 am to NOSHAU

that all makes sense, thanks

with regard to trading Rubio first that's the kicker...he will have suitors. still I think that if holiday goes there, and there is any interest in Rubio here, I'd be ok with sending out an asset like a future protected pick. The optics would be terrible (burning ANOTHER pick on holiday) but better in the long run

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Posted by TigerinATL

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Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:53 am to NOSHAU

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The concern would be whether Minny thinks they can trade Rubio elsewhere for better value and therefore open up enough cap space to fit Jrue in free agency. However, if Jrue wants to leave, I would love this deal to get Rubio AND create a nice TPE while maintain status as over the cap.

There'd have to be no market for Rubio to be able to pull of a Holiday/Rubio S&T. I still think a Moore for Rubio package makes a lot of sense for both sides. And in the Pelicans case it reduces the value of Justin Holiday to the Wolves which hopefully reduces their interest in Jrue. If Moore for Rubio makes Minnesota more interested in Collison/Teague/Hill than Jrue then maybe you get Jrue and his brother for a price you want. Losing Moore also increases the value Justin provides to the team.

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