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re: Bernie Sanders on NPR this morning (ACA repeal)
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:11 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:11 am to Vacherie Saint
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That's exactly what Dems did to pass the aca. You seemed fine with it then, so what's changed?
Nothing's changed. That's the fricking point! "Just like Obamacare" is my favorite new line here
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:26 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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Nothing's changed. That's the fricking point! "Just like Obamacare" is my favorite new line here
Once again, the point is sailing right over your pussy hat wearing head. Let me try once more to unpack this for you.
Republicans were ready to debate healthcare and dems completely shut them out, only negotiating among themselves (stupak, nelson, etc). Polling consistently showed that Americans opposed the bill, yet dems passed it anyway; and frankly it cost them the house, senate, and wh.
Fast forward to today, and dems have made it clear that they will 100% obstruct the Trump agenda, no matter what it is. The rhetoric puked forward during the acha debate reinforced this strategy.
Republicans don't need dem votes, and dems openly want to torpedo anything the Republicans put forward. Rigorous debate is happening between factions within the republican party and the public is solidly behind repeal. The mandate is clear: the people don't want your input and republicans don't need it. Furthermore, you have no real ides, just obstruction. So carry your arse to the back seat and deal with it.
The difference between now and then is, then you had a willing dance partner in reform and you ignored them. People wanted bipartisan debate and they didn't get it. Today, there is no willing partner and there is no public interest in dem ideas like universal healthcare.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:23 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Rarely and I mean rarely do I ever agree with Old Hellen Yeller but when he says the ACA and the new on being hatched are bad we have found common ground
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 2:24 pm
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