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re: Percentage of legit strong guys in your gym
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:01 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:01 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Hook grip is a DONH but with the added security of the thumb to keep the bar from creating a longer moment arm on the fingers. I
But the main strain is on your forearms and using your thumb isn't really changing that when you have 450lbs in your hand. It's simply securing the DONH on the bar. It's not changing your muscle usage in my opinion.
Give me your opinion on this
You are attempting a 3RM DL at 450 lbs with hook grip. you pull the first 2 rather easily but your grip gives out on the 3rd one and the bar falls to the ground. Do you not agree that continuing to train with the hook grip at this weight, or even higher with 1 Rep pulls will improve your grip strength?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:10 pm to Lester Earl
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You are attempting a 3RM DL at 450 lbs with hook grip. you pull the first 2 rather easily but your grip gives out on the 3rd one and the bar falls to the ground. Do you not agree that continuing to train with the hook grip at this weight, or even higher with 1 Rep pulls will improve your grip strength?
The way I see grip development is by volume training. If could do the first 2 reps with the grip then you can do the grip. You just got tired on the third attempt. So, the way I would see it would be to train the hook grip with maybe another exercise such as simply holding weight in your hands and seeing how long you could hold it in the hook grip. This would overload it because you are holding more than you could deadlift.
If your deadlift is lacking because of the grip, you need to work on grip and not let grip determine your back development.
Another way to do it is to use lower weight volume sets of deadlift with a hook grip to get the volume in and get some work for the back.
If you are working your deadlifts to improve your hook grip strength then you are missing out on your other muscles because something is holding it back (grip).
I would recommend working the DL as much as you can so if you did a 3RM and on 3 fail, do the remainder with straps and then work hook grip strength afterwards with a barbell hold. Your grip will be prefatigued and you can work on the endurance.
Sorry, but I might have rambled. Tried to do it in one shot.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:11 pm
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