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re: If Brees wins another ring, will he be part of GOAT discussion?
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:42 pm to UptownG504
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:42 pm to UptownG504
So of you in here are ridiculous. You use rings to measure greatness especially QB. But there is no other position in sports that they relies more upon his teammates talent skill and production than the QB in football. Bradshaw has 4 rings is in the Hall of Fame but is never mentioned among the best ever ( No I do not think he is ). But you give Brady all of this praise because he has 5 rings. Anyone that doesn't include Brees in the discussion as being among the best ever is either stupid or delusional.
I think everyone has their favorites but I don't think you can say any one QB is the best ever. Their are too many variables IMO. Team they played for and the talent around him? Did he get support from his defense? More importantly what era did he play in?
I think everyone has their favorites but I don't think you can say any one QB is the best ever. Their are too many variables IMO. Team they played for and the talent around him? Did he get support from his defense? More importantly what era did he play in?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:20 am to Ponchy Tiger
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I think everyone has their favorites but I don't think you can say any one QB is the best ever
Truest statement in the entire thread.
The question posed was "Will he be part of the GOAT discussion. Outside of an honorable mention, I don't think he will; but I definitely think he should. The problem he's going to face is he doesn't have an MVP (robbed by Manning) and he has several seasons where he missed the playoffs. Were as Brady & Manning have MVPs and were fortunate to play in week divisions.
For the Brady v Brees argument, you still have the missed MVP & several seasons not making the playoffs. But then you have the 5 v 2 (hypothetical from OP) and Brady will most likely finish top 5 in all major QB stats.
The problem he will face is he isn't considered the GOAT of his generation because the national media love Brady & Manning. I think he would need to win at least 2 more to get in the discussion and it would probably take 3 in a row to be recognized nationally in the same class as Brady & Montana.
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