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This diet is really intriguing to me, but I have a few details I would like more information on (maybe more than a few but I'll start slow...)

I haven't seen too many people mention the Supplements he lists off. I noted Salt, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium Citrate, Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Milk Protein Isolate in addition to a Multi-Vitamin on my read through of the book (thank you for posting btw).

Does everyone use all of these? Where do you get them and what brands are good/reliable? I know this book is a few years old so maybe some of this stuff is harder to get (ephedrine), but I wasn't sure. I've only ever used whey protein and pre & post workouts.

For the record I have read the entire book and every post in this thread because there is great information in both. Reading about your experiences and lessons learned is very helpful to a relative novice like myself. Thank you!

I just add salt to my food. I do not worry about magnesium as I have never felt the need. I take a good multi vitamin from controlled labs and drink there omega reds drink and that covers the vitamins.

For ephedrine, I buy bronkaid from wal greens and just order caffeine from sns from online. But you can get a bunch of the fat burners from hi tech from lockout supplements or A1 supplments that have ephedra and caffeine. ALso they have the new ultimate orange preworkout that is the same as the original but has DMAA added.

for protein I use true nutrition. Not always the easiest on the pallet, but overall the best quality.

For fish oil I like to use a DHA 500 from NOW I order from amazon. GNC has the DHA1000 but my believe is a ratio 2:1 ratio of DHA to EPA is perfect. But both are quality. I take 20g a day.

As far as the protein powder goes, only use if you need to. Whole food will keep you satisfied much longer and will provide much better micro nutrition.

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Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu

Central, LA

Member since Jan 2013

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Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:47 am to lsu777

I just put salt in food and in water. Ephedrine is in bronkaid. Caffeine from Walmart (jetfuel). Fish oil from Costco.

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Posted by adidaman27

Stafford, TX

Member since Jan 2009

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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:03 pm to lsu777

That information was very helpful! Thank you both for responding. I've been looking into all of the options you mentioned.

I had a few other things I wanted to get some more experienced thoughts/opinions on:

-Do you find that you need to or get the best results when you do the 3 daily doses of the EC stack that Lyle recommends? I'm guessing it varies based on your tolerance to stimulants, but I wasn't sure how much the extra doses improved results in your experiences.

-My last diet involved intermittent fasting (I used a daily 8 hour feeding window). I'm pretty used to it, but I wasn't sure how safe it was with so few calories on RFL. Certain supplements in the morning in a fasted state also kind of worry me. Do you think combining the two dieting approaches would cause any issues/concerns on a daily basis?

-I was pretty sure that I read where he recommend the cheat meal be "after a workout?" I would think before makes more sense so you would have energy for a tough workout. On the chance that you agree, let's say I'm having my cheat meal Saturday night, would noon Sunday be an optimal time to get in a good workout and use that "cheat meal energy?" I will have fasted after the cheat meal, if that makes a difference.

-On the Refeeds I'm supposed to consume 3g of carbs per lb of LBM. That will have me getting 483.75g of carbs withing 900 - 1800 calories. What are some good foods to get me there? I used to cook big bowls of brown rice and lentils and thought that might work. I also love to just eat bread and rolls if that's a good option. What would be some some other smart (and hopefully tasty) choices?

I'm a Category 2 (215 lbs, 25% BF) and I'm looking forward to starting on Monday! I'm trying to get back to high school weight, 185.

Thank you all again for all of your help and your time!!