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Mike D's Very Early Look at the Top 52 Prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:39 pm
A Very Early Look at the Top 52 Prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft
By Mike Detillier
1. Sam Darnold, Quarterback, USC
2. Josh Allen, Quarterback, Wyoming
3. Arden Key, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker, LSU
4. Derwin James, Safety, Florida State
5. Saquon Barkley, Halfback, Penn State
6. Malik Jefferson, Middle/Outside Linebacker, Texas
7. Josh Rosen, Quarterback, UCLA
8. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Cornerback/Free Safety, Alabama
9. Christian Kirk, Wide Receiver, Texas A&M
10. Bradley Chubb, Defensive End, North Carolina State
11. Derrius Guice, Halfback, LSU
12. Courtland Sutton, Wide Receiver, SMU
13. Christian Wilkins, Defensive Tackle, Clemson
14. Tarvarus McFadden, Cornerback, Florida State
15. Harold Landry, Defensive End/OLB, Boston College
16. Sam Hubbard, Defensive End, Ohio State
17. Calvin Ridley, Wide Receiver, Alabama
18. Vita Vea, Defensive Tackle, Washington
19. Mike McGlinchey, Offensive Tackle, Notre Dame
20. Trey Adams, Offensive Tackle, Washington
21. Cameron Smith, Middle Linebacker, USC
22. Marquis Haynes, Outside Linebacker, Ole Miss
23. Mark Andrews, Tight End, Oklahoma
24. Mason Rudolph, Quarterback, Oklahoma State
25. Jaylon Ferguson, Defensive End, Louisiana Tech
26. Lamar Jackson, Quarterback, Louisville
27. James Washington, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State
28. Clelin Ferrell, Defensive End, Clemson
29. Da'Shawn Hand, Defensive End, Alabama
30. Iman Marshall, Cornerback, USC
31. Tyquan Lewis, Defensive End, Ohio State
32. Martez Ivey, Offensive Tackle/Guard, Florida
33. Jaire Alexander, Cornerback, Louisville
34. Lowell Lotulelei, Defensive Tackle, Utah
35. Connor Williams, Offensive Tackle, Texas
36. Marcus Allen, Free/Strong Safety, Penn State
37. Bo Scarbrough, Halfback, Alabama
38. Deon Cain, Wide Receiver, Clemson
39. Martinas Rankin, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State
40. Jerome Baker, Outside Linebacker, Ohio State
41. Royce Freeman, Halfback, Oregon
42. Derrick Nnadi, Defensive Tackle, Florida State
43. Da'Ron Payne, Defensive Tackle, Alabama
44. Orlando Brown, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma
45. Baker Mayfield, Quarterback, Oklahoma
46. Troy Fumagalli, Tight End, Wisconsin
47. Quenton Nelson, Offensive Guard, Notre Dame
48. Dante Pettis, Wide Receiver, Washington
49. Quin Blanding, Strong Safety, Virginia
50. Armani Watts, Free Safety, Texas A&M
51. Larry Allen, Jr., Offensive Guard, Harvard
52. Micah Kiser, Inside Linebacker, Virginia
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By Mike Detillier
1. Sam Darnold, Quarterback, USC
2. Josh Allen, Quarterback, Wyoming
3. Arden Key, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker, LSU
4. Derwin James, Safety, Florida State
5. Saquon Barkley, Halfback, Penn State
6. Malik Jefferson, Middle/Outside Linebacker, Texas
7. Josh Rosen, Quarterback, UCLA
8. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Cornerback/Free Safety, Alabama
9. Christian Kirk, Wide Receiver, Texas A&M
10. Bradley Chubb, Defensive End, North Carolina State
11. Derrius Guice, Halfback, LSU
12. Courtland Sutton, Wide Receiver, SMU
13. Christian Wilkins, Defensive Tackle, Clemson
14. Tarvarus McFadden, Cornerback, Florida State
15. Harold Landry, Defensive End/OLB, Boston College
16. Sam Hubbard, Defensive End, Ohio State
17. Calvin Ridley, Wide Receiver, Alabama
18. Vita Vea, Defensive Tackle, Washington
19. Mike McGlinchey, Offensive Tackle, Notre Dame
20. Trey Adams, Offensive Tackle, Washington
21. Cameron Smith, Middle Linebacker, USC
22. Marquis Haynes, Outside Linebacker, Ole Miss
23. Mark Andrews, Tight End, Oklahoma
24. Mason Rudolph, Quarterback, Oklahoma State
25. Jaylon Ferguson, Defensive End, Louisiana Tech
26. Lamar Jackson, Quarterback, Louisville
27. James Washington, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State
28. Clelin Ferrell, Defensive End, Clemson
29. Da'Shawn Hand, Defensive End, Alabama
30. Iman Marshall, Cornerback, USC
31. Tyquan Lewis, Defensive End, Ohio State
32. Martez Ivey, Offensive Tackle/Guard, Florida
33. Jaire Alexander, Cornerback, Louisville
34. Lowell Lotulelei, Defensive Tackle, Utah
35. Connor Williams, Offensive Tackle, Texas
36. Marcus Allen, Free/Strong Safety, Penn State
37. Bo Scarbrough, Halfback, Alabama
38. Deon Cain, Wide Receiver, Clemson
39. Martinas Rankin, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State
40. Jerome Baker, Outside Linebacker, Ohio State
41. Royce Freeman, Halfback, Oregon
42. Derrick Nnadi, Defensive Tackle, Florida State
43. Da'Ron Payne, Defensive Tackle, Alabama
44. Orlando Brown, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma
45. Baker Mayfield, Quarterback, Oklahoma
46. Troy Fumagalli, Tight End, Wisconsin
47. Quenton Nelson, Offensive Guard, Notre Dame
48. Dante Pettis, Wide Receiver, Washington
49. Quin Blanding, Strong Safety, Virginia
50. Armani Watts, Free Safety, Texas A&M
51. Larry Allen, Jr., Offensive Guard, Harvard
52. Micah Kiser, Inside Linebacker, Virginia
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:49 pm to hsfolk
These always end up way off bet there's 10 or so names listed that will go 7th round or undrafted.
QBs especially tend to fall off when they've been anointed too early. Darnold was a walkon that has played like 11 games at USC and somehow is the next John Elway right now
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Holy shite
QBs especially tend to fall off when they've been anointed too early. Darnold was a walkon that has played like 11 games at USC and somehow is the next John Elway right now
ETA
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51. Larry Allen jr- Harvard
Holy shite
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:11 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:He was a 4 star across all recruiting sites.
Darnold was a walkon that has played like 11 games at USC and somehow is the next John Elway right now
NFL is a QB league, I'd prepare to load up ammo for Darnold over previous guys like Goff.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:35 pm to hsfolk
I really like next years QB class! Im glad we didn't pick Brees' heir this past draft class. Next years class is absolutely loaded!
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:45 pm to drizztiger
I'll take Allen over Darnold
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:29 pm to hsfolk
26. Lamar Jackson
Is this assuming he makes a position change? I think it would be mighty foolish to draft him that high as a QB. I'm thinking Lamar Hackson will be a 3rd or 4th round pick at best and that's solely because he's a good athlete. I personally wouldn't touch him in any round of the draft as he will likely have to learn an entire new position.
Is this assuming he makes a position change? I think it would be mighty foolish to draft him that high as a QB. I'm thinking Lamar Hackson will be a 3rd or 4th round pick at best and that's solely because he's a good athlete. I personally wouldn't touch him in any round of the draft as he will likely have to learn an entire new position.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:31 pm to hsfolk
After a quick glance I would swap the Texas guys Malik Jefferson and Connor Williams.
And I think he missed QB Luke Falk.
And I think he missed QB Luke Falk.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:34 pm to hsfolk
That list makes me think a little better about the trade for Kamara.
This years 3rd > next years late 2nd rounder
This years 3rd > next years late 2nd rounder
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:54 pm to 1BamaRTR
surprised he has Jaylon Ferguson so high at 25
Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:21 am to hsfolk
quote:
8. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Cornerback/Free Safety, Alabama
was surprised to see him crack the starting lineup as a freshman under Saban.
don't like the team or their fans (most of them) but ahhh.. I don't know maybe he is that fricking good?
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 12:22 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:00 am to hsfolk
Why top 52? Odd number to stop at
Posted on 6/9/17 at 2:08 am to 1BamaRTR
better athlete, better arm, and just as accurate. Josh Allen has Aaron Rodgers type arm talent. Darnold doesn't. We done here?
Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:53 pm to breauxmosexual
Accuracy? Darnold had a completion percentage of 67.2 compared to Allen's 56. He also threw 6 few INTs. I haven't seen much of Allen's play to judge so that's why I asked in the first place.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:27 am to wildtigercat93
Where the hell did you get the idea Darnold was a walk on?
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:56 am to LooseCannon22282
quote:
don't like the team or their fans (most of them) but ahhh.. I don't know maybe he is that fricking good?
More worthy of a first round pick than Humphrey that's for sure.
This is from PFF:
quote:He can any position in the secondary (FS, CB, slot CB, etc.)
On the 37 passes thrown into his coverage when lined up in the slot, Fitzpatrick has allowed 17 receptions for 212 yards, with no touchdowns and three interceptions. That was good for an NFL passer rating of just 30.5. For context, the NFL passer rating of dropping back to pass and just throwing the ball away is 39.6. That means it’s smarter for opposing quarterbacks to throw the ball away than try to go after Fitzpatrick in coverage.
He also has had 7 INTs and returned 4 of them for TDs.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:35 am to 1BamaRTR
quote:
He can any position in the secondary (FS, CB, slot CB, etc.)
He also has had 7 INTs and returned 4 of them for TDs.
Fitzpatrick is good. I really love his game & believe his versatility will be his greatest asset in the NFL.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:54 am to 1BamaRTR
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Accuracy? Darnold had a completion percentage of 67.2 compared to Allen's 56. He also threw 6 few INTs. I haven't seen much of Allen's play to judge so that's why I asked in the first place.
When you watch Darnold play, you quickly realize that he has unbelievable ball placement hence the high completion percentage. The throw he made against Penn St in the Rose Bowl, that turned out to be the game winner, was an absolute dime. The play is at the 10:28 mark of the highlight. The endzone view gives you the best perspective of just how good this throw was.
Sam Darnold vs Penn St
I really like Darnold but I think Josh Allen has more talent & the better skill set. Allen just isn't as polished as Darnold at this point. When looking at the upside aspect, Josh Allen has the higher ceiling IF he has the opportunity to develop under a coach like Sean Payton.
Josh Allen highlights
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Still, there are times when Allen relies too much on his legs and his arm to bail himself out. Bohl and Vigen spent the spring reminding him that he can't go wrong hitting his check downs. The "Oh, s---" throws can wait until the Cowboys need real magic. And taking fewer chances should raise Allen's completion percentage, which will help make him that top pick.
That's why Allen came back. He knows he can succeed at the next level if he allows himself to prepare properly. "I want to have a career in the NFL," he says. "It's not going anywhere. It's going to be there next year and the year after that. I don't want to be a guy that's in the league for three years and bounces around backup to backup to backup. I want to be a guy that a franchise can say, 'We want this kid. We're going to take him now, and he's going to be our future for the next 15 to 20 years.'"
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Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:07 pm to BigBrod81
What is also great about Allen is that the offense at Wyoming is a wide open, pro style type offense. When you look at his highlights, you will see similarities formation wise to what the Saints use.
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