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re: The Inconvenient Truth of the Democratic Party

Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:03 pm to
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you think TANF is worse than slavery?


In one system you have to work to be fed and sheltered and in the other system you can do nothing and be fed and sheltered.

Slavery was and still is horrible, ie see African Slavery today. Although, nearly ALL ethnicities on this planet have been slaves at one time or another.

Slave, root word "Slavic" peoples of Europe.

Either way, what has happened since the Great Society has been a travesty NEARLY to the level of American slavery.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:09 pm
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:08 pm to
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In one system you have to work to be fed and sheltered and in the other system you can do nothing and be fed and sheltered.


this is insane. seriously, rethink this.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5216 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:14 pm to
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you have got to be shitting me

you think TANF is worse than slavery?




no. voluntary impoverishment is worse than forced, surrendering your own dignity is worse
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6100 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:19 pm to
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this is insane. seriously, rethink this.


Rethink what?
Support your argument. I gave examples. All you have done is say No.

Slavery answered to the "man" (Slave Owners). The dependency created by the Great Society answers to the "man" (Government and the Democratic Party).
Don't get off the plantation or you are an Uncle Tom or a "Cornball Brother"! Don't think for yourself, be a sheep and vote with your "people". That is the message from Sharpton to Jackson to Maxine Waters, who made millions off of Fannie and Freddie. What do they care about the struggle of inner city or rural minorities?

Here is something for you:
LINK
Planned Parenthood genocide of black babies.

:Edited for the Coup de Gras...Planned Parenthood is a product of Progressives and the modern Democratic Party who will not allow funding to be cut.:
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:22 pm to
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Rethink what?
Support your argument. I gave examples. All you have done is say No.


say no to what?

to slavery?

you realize under slavery people were systematically abused, deprived of freedom, and treated like property, and you are saying that's a better option than receiving government assistance if you don't earn much

it is insane. seriously, do not tell people in real life about this theory of yours.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:26 pm to
hmm

either get worked to the bones, get the bare minimum in subsistence, get abused if i don't meet certain standards, and never have any sort of freedom for myself

or

get public assistance after jumping through a lot of hoops to prove i need the assistance

i wonder which is worse??? it's pretty close!
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22861 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:30 pm to
Democrats = Soft bigotry of low expectations
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:30 pm to
honestly your argument seems like it supports raising the minimum wage.

a quarter of TANF recipients have jobs. an additional percentage are in job training.

maybe they should be slaves instead, though, right?? for the benefit of their personal dignity!
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:31 pm to
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Democrats = Soft bigotry of low expectations


what i'm learning form this thread is:

Republicans = we think you should be in chains rather than get a benefit
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22861 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:34 pm to
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quote: Democrats = Soft bigotry of low expectations what i'm learning form this thread is: Republicans = we think you should be in chains rather than get a benefit


Why reply to my post with this horseshite? Did I say any of what you said?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6100 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:35 pm to
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under slavery people were systematically abused, deprived of freedom, and treated like property, and you are saying that's a better option than receiving government assistance if you don't earn much


Think about what you said, look at today's government dependent class and get back to me.

While whipping and lynching have rightly passed into history, what about BLM? Sound like people being systematically abused by the authorities, the "man" if you listen to them. I don't believe this but that is what they claim to keep power.

Look at government housing vs housing in the 1800's.
Caeteris Paribus, a roof over your head and the basic necessities for life sans modern conveniences for the 1800's.

Again, I know what you are trying to say about the nuances of the differences. However, the big picture is not much different. A class of people who are dependent upon others for their food and shelter.

Get out of the cycle. It has been done. It can be done. Escape the plantation is all I am saying!
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:36 pm to
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WaveHog
I think you need to acknowledge that minorities have not thrived under the policies of either party. Period.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:38 pm to
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I think you need to acknowledge that minorities have not thrived under the policies of either party. Period.


i think you, and the dude i was posting at before, need to acknowledge that minorities are thriving better today than they did under slavery and saying otherwise is fricking insane.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22861 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:42 pm to
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i think you, and the dude i was posting at before, need to acknowledge that minorities are thriving better today than they did under slavery and saying otherwise is fricking insane.


This is obviously the truth. Now a real question might be are minorities thriving more today than they were prior to LBJs "great society" or even more pertinent, more today than before obamas policies?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6100 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:49 pm to
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i think you, and the dude i was posting at before, need to acknowledge that minorities are thriving better today than they did under slavery and saying otherwise is fricking insane.


I wholeheartedly agree with you on this.
And it is absolutely awesome and what America should be for all races and religions!

However, until something is done to break the cycle of poverty and dependency on government and the breakdown of the black families due to the Great Society and Planned Parenthood, we have generations of people who know nothing but being dependent on Government.
I agree with you that it is not like slavery in the old days per se. But if you are dependent on anything or anyone besides what you can do for yourself, you are in essence a modern day slave to the system.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:57 pm to
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I wholeheartedly agree with you on this.
And it is absolutely awesome and what America should be for all races and religions!
good! glad we agree!
quote:

However, until something is done to break the cycle of poverty and dependency on government and the breakdown of the black families due to the Great Society and Planned Parenthood,

well, i fundamentally disagree with this premise
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:19 pm to
Sorry, but they are not. Keep telling yourself they are though.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:20 pm to
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Sorry, but they are not. Keep telling yourself they are though.


hold up, you honestly think minorities were doing better under slavery than today? seriously?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:40 pm to
I think they have not advanced one bit. They have been used and abused throughout their time on this continent. Keep believing they are better off. I know it makes you think you are superior.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6100 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:15 pm to
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I think they have not advanced one bit. They have been used and abused throughout their time on this continent. Keep believing they are better off. I know it makes you think you are superior.


I agree somewhat with what you are saying due to the lack of expectations placed on the dependent class. However, they are better off in the opportunities they have to succeed. Unfortunately they have been brainwashed to think otherwise to stay on the plantation, ergo your statement is mostly correct, in my humble opinion.

With people like Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell and MANY others, it has been proven that you can escape the shackles of government facilitated dependency.
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