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re: The Inconvenient Truth of the Democratic Party
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Why is that control and not simply a quid pro quo? Both Dems and poor people get what they want (votes, money)
A pattern of continued behavior to entice a group to keep you in power, if it's effective, is control. It's not exclusive to the Dems.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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However I think it's a bit evil how they manipulate the poor.
I started a thread on this very topic years ago when I was going through my conversion from DEM to IND.
I labeled them "Evil Geniuses".
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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a bit evil
It's more than a bit evil.
I can't think of any thing much more evil.
Telling people how much you care about them while you are living in million dollar homes and sipping expensive wine is pretty sick just to get their votes.
Pretending to care is bad. At least I don't care and I don't pretend.
Hell, most people don't care really as they do absolutely nothing but bitch about problems they perceive to get some warm feeling about themselves.
Most of the libs here for instance.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:19 pm to Iosh
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Saying "vote for us and we'll give you stuff" doesn't really sound like control to me.
It's how I get my dog to rollover, show him a treat, give him the hand sign and that suckers rolling. No treat and he aint rolling. Reduce government entitlements and the Dims lose a huge portion of their voters.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:20 pm to Iosh
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Why is that control and not simply a quid pro quo? Both Dems and poor people get what they want (votes, money)
Because the intent is to keep them dependent.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:48 pm to Iosh
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is that control and not simply a quid pro quo? Both Dems and poor people get what they want (votes, money)
I'm certainly no liberal but I do agree with you here.
And, I don't see how anyone can argue that today's republican was yesterday's democrat. It's why the solid democrat south is now solid red. Isn't that why LBJ said the south was lost upon signing the Civil Rights Act?
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:51 pm to biglego
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Isn't that why LBJ said the south was lost upon signing the Civil Rights Act?
Yep, "I’ll have those n*****s voting Democratic for 200 years,”
I know lots of racist people who still didn't vote Republican til the 80s
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:55 pm to Bass Tiger
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Nah, totally different, but each does off a certain level of control. Slavery is blatant control.
I would suggest that whoever controls the purse strings has complete control...
Posted on 5/24/17 at 5:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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know lots of racist people who still didn't vote Republican til the 80s
There are still some conservative democrats, you can see them in state or local elections, but they are the old timers and are dwindling.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:06 pm to biglego
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There are still some conservative democrats, you can see them in state or local elections, but they are the old timers and are dwindling
Yeah, my ex wife's dad said he'd vote for a ****** (referring to Jesse Jackson) before a Republican.
Its changed over the years, I'd say the Democrats racist past can be forgotten though.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
George Wallace, a Democrat, won 90% of the black vote in the 1982 Alabama gubernatorial. This a mere 19 years after his infamous "Segregation Forever" speech.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:09 pm to Iosh
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Yeah I mean slavery and giving people money are basically the same thing
Well, slavery and stealing the fruits of other people's labor before redistributing it are at least a step closer together.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:09 pm to Iosh
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Saying "vote for us and we'll give you stuff" doesn't really sound like control to me.
If you give them just enough to not have to provide for themselves it can be.
I didn't get a job in highschool until my parents stopped giving me 20 bucks a week. It sucked at first but life became much better having 100 a week to play with. And I felt much less inclined to brown nose to get my handout.
Yes I know some people actually need assistance to survive, but there are many that don't and just accept it and are perfectly content because it's all they've ever known.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:11 pm to RollTide1987
Yea after he basically made a 180 degree turn and apologized for it
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:04 pm to jackmanusc
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Yea after he basically made a 180 degree turn and apologized for it
It's amazing how Democrats can get away with such apologies. Men like George Wallace and Robert Byrd say sorry for being two of the biggest supporters of segregation and racism in the 20th century and they are forgiven. Mel Gibson apologizes for a drunken rant against Jews and the man still can never live it down.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:18 pm to finchmeister08
quote:You wish
aren't today's republican ideologies inline with the dem's ideologies from the civil war era?
Nice lie. The bigger the better
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:20 pm to Iosh
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Yeah I mean slavery and giving people money are basically the same thing
Of course you know more than a black female professor at Vanderbilt...
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I certainly believe the architects behind leftist policy realize they are creating a dependent class and its by design
You are right!
Just google Francis Fox Priven and Richard Cloward.
From Wiki:
Piven was married to her long-time collaborator Richard Cloward until his death in 2001.[2] Together with Cloward, she wrote an article in the May 1966 issue of The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty" advocating increased enrollment in social welfare programs in order to collapse that system and force reforms, leading to a guaranteed annual income.[8][9] This political strategy has been referred to as the "Cloward–Piven strategy".[10] During 2006/07 Piven served as the President of the American Sociological Association.[11]
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:40 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
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Yeah I mean slavery and giving people money are basically the same thing
the impoverishment is the same thing
only one of them is worse...it's voluntary and Democrats are actively duping them into believing it's a good thing
you have got to be shitting me
you think TANF is worse than slavery?
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