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Posted on 5/20/17 at 7:59 am to WestCoastAg
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he also didnt play this way during the regular season
if he wanted to win the mvp, he would have went out and got it. i just dont think he gives a frick about it
THIS.
During the playoffs every year we get this fricking thread. But the truth his he's just been "cruising" to great numbers in the regular season. It's not the "lebron fatigue", that was years ago. He didn't deserve to win the MVP this year or the two years Curry won it.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:31 am to Woopigsooie20
Considering that was the factual case, it's essentially the only logical conclusion considering who votes on these awards.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:36 am to PapaPogey
His team coasted through a relatively weak schedule, so his performance merely met expectations at best. Others exceeded expectations.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:50 am to PearlJam
He didn't play this way during the regular season and his team didn't play this way during the regular season. They don't even halfway resemble that team
Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:53 am to Allthatfades
Because everyone expects this from lebron. They expect him to play like the greatest player ever, so when he does it year in and year out he is taken for granted.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 9:11 am to PapaPogey
Not a big enough ball hog and actually plays defense
MVP award is basically who is the biggest ball hog these days, and an award who goes to one who doesnt play defense
MVP award is basically who is the biggest ball hog these days, and an award who goes to one who doesnt play defense
Posted on 5/20/17 at 9:26 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Harden being the only unanimous NBA All-Pro first-teamer pretty good indicator he'll be MVP at season's end.
71 of the 100 MVP ballots are known. Westbrook has 47 of the first place votes, while Harden has 18. Harden is not winning the MVP
Posted on 5/20/17 at 9:31 am to PapaPogey
Harden numbers were better across the board. He lead his squad to a better record. In the tougher conference. with less help. Lebron has almost no argument for MVP this season. I don't think he's too worried about reg season MVP. If he can push the warriors to 6 I would consider it a good season for him. 5 gamer IMO.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 9:40 am to Epic Cajun
That literally makes zero logical sense, Harden is the only player of the All-NBA First-Team to be awarded that unanimously not Westbrook not LeBron thus he should be MVP from a logical standpoint. Then again, these sportswriters love to eschew logic and flip-flop so I'm not too surprised by their conformity.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 9:58 am to ThePTExperience1969
All that means is that one voter has harden over weatbrook the other 99 that had them both on the first squad coulda hypothetically all favoured weatbrook.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 4:17 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Considering that was the factual case, it's essentially the only logical conclusion considering who votes on these awards
The word logical does not mean what you appear to think it means, then. I'll use non-actual numbers, because the exact total of voters is somewhat incidental to the effect being described.
Player A gets 250 out of 250 possible votes for 1st Team All NBA.
Player B gets 249 of 250 possible votes for 1st Team All NBA
When someone misses a unanimous All-NBA pick by a single vote, it is indicative of a single voter saying 'Nope'-- not that the 249 people who agree that both were 1st Team All NBA value player A over player B automatically.
There has been pretty extensive monitoring of the people who do vote for MVP; its pretty well determined that Westbrook will win the MVP, not unanimously, but reasonably decisively.
Think of it this way; that petty sportswriter who leaves a candidate from another region off of his Heisman ballot isn't going to keep them from winning the Heisman trophy, if every other voter has them in an appropriate place.
This post was edited on 5/20/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/20/17 at 4:38 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:How are you struggling with the logic? It's perfectly logical.
That literally makes zero logical sense, Harden is the only player of the All-NBA First-Team to be awarded that unanimously not Westbrook not LeBron thus he should be MVP from a logical standpoint. Then again, these sportswriters love to eschew logic and flip-flop so I'm not too surprised by their conformity.
All that can be inferred from the All-NBA voting is that ONE voter favored Harden and not Westbrook. The other 99 could have favored either one.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 4:43 pm to buckeye_vol
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That literally makes zero logical sense, Harden is the only player of the All-NBA First-Team to be awarded that unanimously not Westbrook not LeBron thus he should be MVP from a logical standpoint. Then again, these sportswriters love to eschew logic and flip-flop so I'm not too surprised by their conformity.
Reminds me of Griffey Jr. Not being unanimous for the Hof.
You have to take these awards for what they are.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 5:32 pm to BoardReader
IDGAF about all what a reporter does or doesn't vote, that's the process and I'm aware of it. This is a really simple situation: Harden was the player unanimously selected for first-team All-NBA not Westbrook nor James and logically that translates to him being the MVP. Harden was the singular player honored unanimously, was he not? The MVP voters selected the all-pro teams, do they not? Therefore, he's the MVP and that fact indicates as such otherwise they're representing nonsense.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:16 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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IDGAF about all what a reporter does or doesn't vote, that's the process and I'm aware of it. This is a really simple situation: Harden was the player unanimously selected for first-team All-NBA not Westbrook nor James and logically that translates to him being the MVP. Harden was the singular player honored unanimously, was he not? The MVP voters selected the all-pro teams, do they not? Therefore, he's the MVP and that fact indicates as such otherwise they're representing nonsense.
You aren't familiar with logic. A naturally arising premise based on the information, it is plainly not.
Don't be a Rocketard. You know better.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:21 pm to BoardReader
So you basically just contradicted yourself arguing I'm not familiar with logic when I used actual facts to reach a conclusion ie logic and my argument makes sense? Good job bro, enjoy losing to LSU in football the next 5+ years.
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:22 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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So you basically just contradicted yourself arguing I'm not familiar with logic when I used actual facts to reach a conclusion ie logic and my argument makes sense? Good job bro, enjoy losing to LSU in football the next 5+ years.
You don't use actual facts. You extrapolate in a way that you know is improper, from a data set- and you know it is improper because of the known voting procedure of each award.
And I thought Boom was dense....
Posted on 5/20/17 at 6:26 pm to BoardReader
Well its pretty obvious that the MOST VALUABLE player in the Leauge this year is Westbrook....
Without him OKC MYBE wins 30 games... The others had A way better cast around them.....
Without him OKC MYBE wins 30 games... The others had A way better cast around them.....
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