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re: Russia did not hack the DNC. The FBI did not investigate it. The company lied.

Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:26 pm to
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They NEVER got to look at the machines or data. are you an idiot or just a liar?
You're a gullible, anti-American piece of shite. The whole lot of you. And I'm not half kidding.





So the FBI, NSA, and CIA admit they did not get access to the server or the data...publicly.

And we're lying about them not having access?


Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:33 pm to
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So the FBI, NSA, and CIA admit they did not get access to the server or the data...publicly. And we're lying about them not having access?


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So the FBI, NSA, and CIA admit they did not get access to the server or the data...publicly. And we're lying about them not having access?
They were provided with enough good information, which they were able to corroborate by [many] other means to strengthen their argument. They don't need physical access to servers to monitor any and all activity relating to those servers. They undoubtedly have insights into other activities on the other end--multiple other ends, in fact.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4239 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:39 pm to
Lets not forget some of the details for why they walked it back.

The tools used to indicate fancy bear were old versions that at the time of the phishing (if that ever actually happened) were something like three patches behind the most recent and were available to non state actors. FancyBear is more than capable of covering it's tracks so indications based on IP addresses are ludicrous in the extreme. And since this all came out, Wikileaks published the CIA's handbook on how to make any attack look exactly like this to divert blame to the russians.

The idea that the DNC could only have been hacked by Putin and friends is absurd. I'm not saying it wasn't russian hackers, but there are russian hackers groups who are billion dollar plus entities at this point. They have the people to do anything they want to do. State actors have the ability to send armies of average hackers at you from every angle all day every day. But one gifted hacker can be more effective than that army. And almost nothing is more effective than an insider. Which it usually is in these cases where large numbers of files are lost.

Wikileaks made it clear that they were given the DNC file IN PERSON IN WASHINGTON DC. And Assange almost admitted in an interview that it was Seth Rich that did it.

Occam's Razor folks...
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