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re: Stephen A talking about Cp3 and the Pelicans

Posted on 5/13/17 at 11:30 am to
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 11:30 am to
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You get a shot at Chris fricking Paul and actually open the title window in this city, you take it.


Well duh. I don't think it opens a title window, but they would be very good. if Paul is interested, of course you explore that fully

the point is he likely is not, so arguing about 55+ wins and a 2 seed is a waste of time to me.


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Cleveland and GSW. Who's the two teams in the league that have a legit big 3? Cleveland and GSW. 


disagree on Cleveland's roster and on GS, though to a lesser extent than the last 2 years.

what sets them apart from the Clippers (and whatever the Pels have tried to do around Davis) is that they understand what gaps to fill around their premier talent and have done a good job identifying those guys (via draft, scrap heap, ring chasers, et al)

the Pels have two dominant talents. not exactly natural fits, but close enough. they need to worry more about those two meshing, what areas need shoring up, and then how to identify/develop players to fill those gaps more than "MUST HAVE BIG 3"

if Davis/Cousins is as good as we all hope, they shouldn't need to sell out for a 3rd all NBA level player to become a good team. they should be able to use their skills and system to make lesser guys look better.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 2:47 pm to
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disagree on Cleveland's roster and on GS, though to a lesser extent than the last 2 years.



What's their to disagree about? Give me a team with better 3rd players than Love or Thompson. Tell you what, you put Paul on this Pels team and you have an argument for one and an easy yep for the other. When push comes to shove, the stars win these titles. Teams like Houston, San Antonio, and Boston do what you describe. Find great role players to make them relevant. They don't have the firepower to beat the juggernauts though.

The Clippers never had a big 3 and they won 50 regularly. A player you can't count on in the clutch and can be intentionally fouled as a weakness is not a 3rd banana. Jordan's full offensive game was built around Paul/Griffin creating lobs/dump offs and putbacks. Give CP3 two true two way players and you or I really don't know if he could contend with them.

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if Davis/Cousins is as good as we all hope, they shouldn't need to sell out for a 3rd all NBA level player to become a good team. they should be able to use their skills and system to make lesser guys look better


You're right in my opinion. Unfortunately for the Pels, these two aren't natural ball handlers and need either a floor general to set them up or a coach cunning enough to deploy them. Right now, we have neither and a GM who's not shown the capability to do what you describe, yet miraculously lucked into Davis and Cousins. The Cousins trade he pulled off, yes. You can't tell me when he drafted Buddy Hield he did it to dangle him in front of an owner and say gimme your superstar. Luck and the cajones to just ask.
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