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re: I hope every sports fan is getting to Witness this greatness

Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:18 am to
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cherrypicking


You cherrypicked by combining the 4 teams records to show how they played against the other conference. Utah had the best record against the other conference of the 4 teams you used. Portland had the worst.

Utah also has a higher SRS than any of the other teams in this argument.

You can't say the teams are on the same level, and then when you factually say it and it shows that Utah is better than the other 3 teams.

Utah is the best of those 4 teams according to 2 of your 3 metrics. Is that not factually accurate? And they are tied in the 3rd, is that not once again factually accurate?

So according to your metrics, is Utah the best team of those 4 or not?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35251 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:26 am to
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So according to your metrics, is Utah the best team of those 4 or not?
Utah is essentially 0.35 points better than Toronto; when you account for schedule strength. So Utah is better, but that difference is not practically significant. Similarly, Portland is 0.44 points better than Indiana.

Overall, Cleveland and Golden State have a very similar strength of competition in the first two rounds.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:30 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111235 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:28 am to
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You cherrypicked by combining the 4 teams records to show how they played against the other conference. Utah had the best record against the other conference of the 4 teams you used. Portland had the worst.
If we're discussing CLE's 1st 2 playoff opponents vs GS's 1st 2 playoff opponents, don't you want to look at how all 4 teams have fared? You want to look at ONLY Utah and leave out Portland while simultaneously saying I'm cherrypicking. That makes zero sense.

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Utah also has a higher SRS than any of the other teams in this argument.

Yep, they do. Ever so slightly ahead of Toronto, and they have the same record, and TOR has the slightly better point diff....which again shows what I said was exactly correct, these 2 teams are virtually even/on the same level.

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You can't say the teams are on the same level, and then when you factually say it and it shows that Utah is better than the other 3 teams.

They're on the same level.

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Utah is the best of those 4 teams according to 2 of your 3 metrics.
According to 1 of 3 metrics. TOR is better according to 1 of 3 metrics. They're tied in the 3rd metrics. How dare I say they're on the same level!!!!

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Is that not factually accurate?
No, it's not.

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So according to your metrics, is Utah the best team of those 4 or not?

No, they're virtually even with Toronto, as i've said all along, and the data proves me to be correct.

It's so strange that you're taking something that is splitting hairs and acting like you've made some point about how it's sooooo obvious that Utah is better than Toronto.


The 2 teams GS has faced are virtually even compared to the 2 teams that CLE has faced. AGAIN, not sure why you want to argue against that, all the data says that is so.
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