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re: Ed's got this. No worries. Update: Drunk man pontificates on things beyond him
Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:36 am to Freauxzen
Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:36 am to Freauxzen
quote:
1) The O hire is terrible, Right now, and the process was completely flawed
2) There is no legitimate metric that makes this make sense
3) This isn't O's dream job, at all, and he openly hammered LSU on multiple occasions. He's an opportunist at heart. He is not an "LSU man"
4) Going the "Clemson" route is not a common way to win. It just happened to work that one time. We may not actually replicate that success.
5) He has to win now, not in 4 years, otherwise this hire makes no sense because....
6) Even if you argue that O's Interim Records matter in this (and I wouldn't), he has never shown the ability to build a program, never been hired to do it after Ole Miss, never really had interest in it after Ole Miss, and doesn't seem to have the skillset for it. You don't hire O as a 10 year program building, elite level coach. He doesn't match that approach to football. He doesn't have that kind of philosophy. That actually might be why his interim record is so good and his head coaching record is so terrible.
I'll acknowledge the following:
1) Those who are not excited could very well be wrong
2) The O hire for consistency does make sense. Everyone else is too young or I wouldn't trust them either. If we really wanted consistency, and that was Alleva's goal, then this was the only hire to make.
3) Canada was a good hire
4) O is crazy enough for this whole plan to maybe work, and he has some good connections in football
5) He does have passion for football and he has a knack for spotting talent. That can help long term.
6) He is from Louisiana and does seem to love Louisiana. I'm not sure that matters in the grand scheme of things. But there you go.
I agree with all this and always go back to thinking he cant be any worse than Miles(and Miles was pretty darn successful), if he just doesnt sabotage the offense, and keeps recruiting well- which nobody has argued that Coach O isnt a great recruiter.
i think it might be crazy enough to work, but as i said earlier, am concerned about long term sustainability of it.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/8/17 at 11:45 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:
i think it might be crazy enough to work
Well ... I agree, and only in Louisiana do we come up with "crazy enough to work" master plans.
So, I cannot join the "Ed's got this / no worries" crowd.
I ain't worried ... but, mainly just because I really don't give much of a rat's arse anymore.
It is rare when people completely unqualified for a job ... actually end up succeeding at a high level.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 12:34 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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always go back to thinking he cant be any worse than Miles
Can't be any worse than Miles?? And I'm sure this isn't subjective at all, not just a personal dislike of the man, his offensive philosophy, his speech, or the way he fricking claps.
Let me put this very simply. It will be an absolute miracle if O DOESNT do objectively worse than Miles. Like, he will be the greatest coach in modern SEC history not named Saban, Meyer, or Spurrier.
Comments like this that totally disregard the success that Miles helped LSU to achieve during his time in BR are what is going to make this next tenure and the movingof the goalposts so funny.
Many people just didn't like Miles personally. Period. Most of that same group just really likes O. That will be the grease that keeps those goal posts sliding backwards for one as opposed to where they were set for the other.
I happen to like them both, for the record, although I was shocked and disappointed that the search process stopped at O.
Edited: thought this was a reply to RTR as well
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 1:13 pm
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