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re: Amazon Echo vs Google Home - Which is best?

Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:51 pm to
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The Fire TV already has a row of its interface dedicated to NetFlix recommendations. It's stuff you've been watching on NetFlix.
Yeah, installing and signing in to an app on a given device gives it permission to watch what you do, assuming the app allows it.
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Your remote control doesn't require personal authorization to turn on your TV.
My remote control doesn't work in the background, and it can't control anything other than my TV (or other devices that I explicitly tell it to in the case of a universal remote). Allowing another person physical access is authorization enough.
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Maybe out of the box is the wrong phrase. Perhaps during a setup wizard or when you install an app you give permission not only to let your FireTV access the app, but you can also authorize your echoes.
So you agree now that installation and setup of app/device integrations is necessary? This is the crux of my earlier reply.
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I'm just talking about giving the combination of FireTV and Echo devices access to knowing what you watch on NetFlix/Hulu/Plex/etc.
And that would be great. It just can't be automagic. App installation and setup required.
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Having an Android phone and using the Google ecosystem gives Google way more access to much more personal information than we're talking about with controlling media playback.
I'm not necessarily worried about who has what personal or non-personal data. I am just saying I would have some questions if a device could worm its way into my other devices and app data without my knowledge and permission.
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I really think you're underestimating Joe Six Pack's willingness to trade control for convenience.
Oh, I know the average person would think it's awesome. That's why I think it's important that those of us who have an idea how things work need to stay on top of it.
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This new world where your shows come from so many different services that often have their own unique interface can be cumbersome to navigate.
I know it can be tough, in my house we use Plex, Netflix, Prime, Youtube, Sling, and Tablo. Even though my 4 year old can find exactly what he wants by navigating all but Sling and Tablo, it would definitely be easier to find what you want with a universal interface. I think it will happen eventually, but it just won't (or shouldn't) be automagic.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61676 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 5:50 am to
Sorry I wasn't more clear, by out of the box I just meant not having to go through so many extra steps, like going to the Alexa app adding Alexa skills for an app you installed on your Fire TV and in the case of something like Harmony Hub having to set up rules on a 3rd party site like IFTTT. Of course you should have to give login info and access permissions to your other services.

Side note, with the release of the new Echo Show Amazon is making Alexa a messaging app too. The app updated yesterday and forced you to confirm your name, which isn't that big of a deal since Amazon already has that, but then it wanted access to your contacts. You can tell it no, which I did, but this just felt like a slimy play for data rather than an innocent release of a useful new feature.
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