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re: White House caught in more alternative facts

Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
It wont matter. They don't care about facts. The first thought that came to my head when I saw the press conf was "They are crediting existing construction to a bill that was passed yesterday? That makes no sense."

It also turns out that the cyclone fence that they pointed out wasn't the actual existing border fence. It was a temporary fence put up during construction.

Propaganda used to work better.

The truth is too easy to get to these days.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Or straight up lies.

So Spicer amd Mulvaney or however you spell it, angrily point at pictures of parts of a wall, or replacement wall being built at the Mexico/New Mexico border. They say Trump is building these and there is money in his budget so he can keep his promises. In truth those replacement and repair projects were not only approved under the Bush and Obama administration, but they actually, and more importantly, started before Trump even became president.



This is so minor compared to the lies that Obama and his people told us, and truth be told Trump himself has told much bigger lies , that it really isn't even worth discussing. I mean seriously, who gives one rat's arse about this?

Yall are truly gonna burn yourselves out before the end of the year at this pace, not every comment from the WH is cause for such outrage.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54262 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

In truth those replacement and repair projects were not only approved under the Bush and Obama administration, but they actually, and more importantly, started before Trump even became president.



So Trump's physically doing actual work that the previous two didn't? I don't see a problem here.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:19 pm to
how dare he question Obergruppenführer Trump??
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

It doesn't matter
I've said a few times that he should just declare the wall built and move on. The people who care about the wall will believe it and the rest of us won't care.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:19 pm to
I don't think the person has a point to make Seldom. I think he found an article and thought.. "I can show those Trump So and Sos... "

Yet... Wall being built. New area being built.

Not sure where his "I got them now" moment is.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17178 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Nobody cares asswipe


quote:

No poliboard Trumpkin cares asswipe


FIFY
Posted by silverdude
Member since Mar 2017
216 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:21 pm to
quote:


This is so minor compared to the lies that Obama and his people told us, and truth be told Trump himself has told much bigger lies , that it really isn't even worth discussing. I mean seriously, who gives one rat's arse about this?

Yall are truly gonna burn yourselves out before the end of the year at this pace, not every comment from the WH is cause for such outrage.




LINK

quote:

Whataboutism is a term describing a propaganda technique used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. When criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[1][2]
It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[3] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9209 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:21 pm to
Do you masturbate while you troll?

What's your gain from all of this trolling?
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5886 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:22 pm to
The pics were taken from Mexico and they are old. The hole in the fence in the pics have already been fixed. The chain link fence that is in the pic is for construction equipment.

How does Spicer have any credibility?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Whataboutism is a term describing a propaganda technique used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. When criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[1][2] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[3] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
Otherwise known as "how wives and girlfriends argue."
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:23 pm to
Nope. She using wet wipes all over her naked body and rolls around on crushed Cheetos before peeing on a bed...


Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

This is so minor compared to the lies that Obama and his people told us,


There's the "But Obama" brigade checking in.

quote:

I mean seriously, who gives one rat's arse about this?



Then why lie about it?

quote:

Yall are truly gonna burn yourselves out before the end of the year at this pace, not every comment from the WH is cause for such outrage.


Who is outraged. Pointing out propaganda from the White House is too easy to get burned out.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

How does Spicer have any credibility?

Right question but wrong audience.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78843 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:26 pm to
and yet y'all didnt raise an eyebrow when hillary was caught wiping hard drives to destroy evidence and replied 'wiped? like with a cloth?' hahahaha

good times, huh. apples and oranges since she only lied to the FBI right?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

I've said a few times that he should just declare the wall built and move on. The people who care about the wall will believe it and the rest of us won't care.
Actually a brilliant idea
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Haughton99


You and I have had productive honest debates.

Let's do it with this topic. You start. What's the problem as you see it?
Posted by PhillipJFry
Member since Sep 2016
964 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:27 pm to
We need to keep moving the goal posts. If they say these things his voters will eat it up and believe it, and therefore to Trump he thinks he is keeping his promises.

Went from:
1. Build the wall and Mexico pays for it.
2. Build the wall but with trade tariffs.
3. I'll add the funds to build the wall I to the budget.
4. I will fix the wall.
5. Look we built the wall that was already approved under Obama.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

and yet y'all didnt raise an eyebrow when hillary was caught wiping hard drives to destroy evidence and replied 'wiped? like with a cloth?' hahahaha

quote:

Whataboutism is a term describing a propaganda technique used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. When criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[1][2] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[3] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99868 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

but they actually, and more importantly, started before Trump even became president.


So fricking what???????

Where do you thing the fricking pictures came from? They were not photoshopped or CGI. Mulvaney and Kelly both said they were existing improvements and the $$$ would be used to make more.

Your ceaseless quest for a "gotcha" makes you look foolish.
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