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re: The mass freakout over Bret Stephen's climate change article on NYT

Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:00 am to
Posted by aminhamenina014
Mobile, AL
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:00 am to
Like, you could say the existence of gravity is uncertain and "a matter of probabilities". That doesn't mean engineers and physicists should proceed as if it might not exist.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43172 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 5:22 am to
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Like, you could say the existence of gravity is uncertain and "a matter of probabilities". That doesn't mean engineers and physicists should proceed as if it might not exist.

Pretty bad analogy.

Never once in the existence of the universe has there been an instance where the 'theory' about gravity has been wrong.

You only have to go back 40 years to see the 'climate change' theories predicting global cooling to be our future.

In the long history of the earth, we have had myriads of ice ages - followed by global warming to melt the ice. We are presently still in the recovery stages of the last ice age - it takes a warming climate to melt the ice.

To attribute sinister effects to the activities of human beings is an exercise in immature thinking. It's kind of like pissing in the ocean - if you look at the immediate effects, yeah the water got a little warmer and the sea level rose a tad - momentarily.

And why did the meme go from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" all of a sudden?? Doesn't climate change offer the admission of the possibility the climate may change to a lower temperature??

Or was the change in meme done for POLITICAL reasons?? to disguise the appearance of inconvenient facts popping up in the data???

If the science was really settled on the climate getting ever-warmer, the meme of "global warming" would have been a far better way to convey the immediacy of the crisis. Why did you science non-deniers muddle the message???
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:37 am to
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Like, you could say the existence of gravity is uncertain and "a matter of probabilities". That doesn't mean engineers and physicists should proceed as if it might not exist.


This just fricking retarded. As en engineer who routinely commissions research in to new areas of discovery, I can absolutely tell you that the change in global climate over the last couple hundred years is not well understood. The potential impacts are at best estimated with an unacceptable level of precision (best we can do at the moment). Lastly the causal link between any change and man's activities is tenuous at best.

Simply stated:
1) we do not understand what is going on yet
2) our tools to model the phenomenon lack the precision required to allow us to draw exact conclusions
3) causality has been assigned based on human emotion and political agenda.


That is all.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 8:42 am
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