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re: NSIAP: Bill Nye's Degenerate "My Sex Junk" children's singalong (NSFW)
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:29 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:29 pm to FooManChoo
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But you do seem to care or think such statements are important enough to respond to it.
I don't want it to be said that I ignored them.
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Please provide the other variables you think prevent us from becoming barbarians with smart phones.
Science, philosophy, education, etc. I sure hope you don't believe religion to be the only thing preventing human nature from turning us back into wild animals.
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Christian worldview provides an objective basis for decency
No, it doesn't.
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unlike the atheistic model
See, here's your issue. Atheists don't rely on a contradictory book written thousands of years ago by primitives for their moral compasses. If you do, have at it. Just don't expect everyone to continue falling for it.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:32 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
You can't escape the moral compass that Christianity has provided you.
It didn't come out of thin air.
You are welcome.
By the way, by my count, you currently follow almost all the 10 commandments.
You are well on your way.![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconcheers.gif)
It didn't come out of thin air.
You are welcome.
By the way, by my count, you currently follow almost all the 10 commandments.
You are well on your way.
![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconcheers.gif)
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 4/28/17 at 2:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Well put.
Religion doesn't make someone decent, but a Christian worldview provides an objective basis for decency, unlike the atheistic model where we are just grown up germs in a cosmic accident heading along the path towards obliteration and nothingness.
quote:It might very well be the only thing that virtually every human is capable of embracing, regardless of their intellectual capacity.
Science, philosophy, education, etc. I sure hope you don't believe religion to be the only thing preventing human nature from turning us back into wild animals.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/28/17 at 3:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I know what you mean, but I try to keep it to actual arguments that need response rather than pointing out something frivolous.
I don't want it to be said that I ignored them
quote:Science: Doesn't address morality
Science, philosophy, education, etc.
Philosophy: Can address morality but I've found points more to the necessity of God than not, especially in terms of justifying morality.
Education: Isn't helpful towards morality unless you are learning about philosophy or religion. Learning about science and history won't drive someone to be a good person if they don't believe in an objective standard for goodness.
quote:Humans can choose to be primitive or not. However, if the Christian worldview is rejected, there is no objective basis for judging right and wrong beyond the concept of "might makes right" where those in power (however that looks like) determines the moral code of the day. In those situations, the moral code can change very quickly, and not always for the better (even the definition of "better" is subjective in that worldview, since what is good, bad, better, and worse is really up to the individual).
I sure hope you don't believe religion to be the only thing preventing human nature from turning us back into wild animals.
quote:It does, because it recognizes a singular law-giver that is above humanity that will hold all people accountable to it. When God is rejected and humanity is made sole arbiter of truth, each individual can decide what is and isn't true and what is and isn't moral. People create their own moral code to live by and thus any accepted human-based moral code has to be subjective. That's also why it changes from day to day and year to year.
No, it doesn't.
quote:Atheists have to borrow from the Christian worldview to justify their own morality. The only consistent atheist is the one that literally doesn't judge anyone as right or wrong, moral or immoral, because they know that there is no objective standard to judge by. That means no one else's moral code is better or worse than their own. They recognize the law without recognizing the law-giver. Talk about contradictory.
See, here's your issue. Atheists don't rely on a contradictory book written thousands of years ago by primitives for their moral compasses. If you do, have at it. Just don't expect everyone to continue falling for it.
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