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re: FCC announces plan to reverse Title II net neutrality
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:14 pm to Haughton99
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:14 pm to Haughton99
quote:You're right. The last thing we want is for private businesses to earn a profit for their services.
not to be able to throttle or outright block access to sites for profit.
Go back to my original statement that started you and the other snowflakes melting. I used the word "indiscriminately" when referring to ISP's charging for/regulating their services.
There is a damn good business reason why a user who uses 50 gigabytes of data in a month should pay more than someone who uses 2 gigabytes of data in a month.
Or if the user doesn't want to pay more, then his data speed is slowed rather than overwhelming the capacity of the ISP's technology.
And I don't want a fricking government bureaucrat deciding if that business reason makes sense to them or not.
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:14 pm to LSURussian
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I have at least 5 providers I could use for data/internet services where I live and only one of them has a wire coming into my house.
You are in the minority and I doubt all 5 providers are offering competitive speeds.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:15 pm to rds dc
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Please tell me of one time that heaping layers and layers of new regs on an industry worked out for the good of the consumer in the end.
FDA regulations pertaining to drug research protocols and developmental methods of new compounds.
NHTSA regulations that mandate vehicular safety standards, and permit recall enforcement via the courts.
USDA regulations that establish inspection protocols, packing standards, and other extensive mechanisms that promote food safety.
Shall I continue?
And I'm not an advocate of aggrandizing governmental authority - I'm simply stating that you occasionally just need to apply a series of regulatory policies to an industry to keep the market in check - and maintaining net neutrality is certainly one of those instances.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:21 pm to LSURussian
quote:
You're right. The last thing we want is for private businesses to earn a profit for their services
Because Comcast et al are really struggling right now?
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And I don't want a fricking government bureaucrat deciding if that business reason makes sense to them or not.
And I don't want telecom industries buying state/local politicians to destroy competition, but frick me I guess
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:24 pm to CorporateTiger
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Since I have to go through this every fricking time, here goes nothing.
ISP have a created a patchwork of state and local laws which distort and destroy the free market for internet service. These big government policies at the state and local level have hugely benefited the ISPs at the cost of the customer.
Net neutrality is a regulation, which is generally a bad thing is not necessarily bad where there is no free market to destroy in the first place.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:25 pm to LSURussian
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You're right. The last thing we want is for private businesses to earn a profit for their services.
You don't think they make a profit now with net neutrality in full force. I'm guessing you don't mind when drug companies buy up generic manufacturers so they have the monopoly on a drug and then jack the price up 1000% do you?
"Muh free markets!!"
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There is a damn good business reason why a user who uses 50 gigabytes of data in a month should pay more than someone who uses 2 gigabytes of data in a month.
This is about access to sites not data usage. You realize that right? Data caps are out there and are legal today.
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And I don't want a fricking government bureaucrat deciding if that business reason makes sense to them or not.
When business decisions harm consumers then most people have a problem and want something done. If you don't, cool. You be you man. Glad there's not more of you out there.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:28 pm to LSURussian
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I have at least 5 providers I could use for data/internet services where I live and only one of them has a wire coming into my house.
And 4/5 would provide service that would be extremely slow compared to the wired one. People bring up satellite internet when claiming there is competition. Satellite is stupid expensive and extremely slow. Sites are built today assuming people have a certain download speed. If you don't then you might as well not have the internet.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:38 pm to LSURussian
You'll be pissed when you have to pay more just to access your favorite stock/trade site.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:42 pm to cahoots
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A lot of municipalities only have one or two ISPs and it's almost impossible for anyone else to compete (including Google). My prediction is that the consumer is going to get gang raped by the ISPs.
We have been getting gang-raped. NN was just the condom.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:48 pm to 13SaintTiger
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You'll be pissed when you have to pay more just to access your favorite stock/trade site.
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:49 pm to i am dan
Already pissed with the knowledge of the coming arse rape we are all about to receive.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:53 pm to Cs
There are many "free market" people here that would have no problem with an ISP setting up plans like that.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:53 pm to Haughton99
That makes more sense. Thanks for clearing it up. So which ISPs gave to republicans? I'll do some research on my own, but you seem to have the info already. If it is true, it is pretty shady and I will agree with you.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:57 pm to Haughton99
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There are many "free market" people here that would have no problem with an ISP setting up plans like that.
They say that now, because philosophically, it's something they agree with. To them, this is just an argumentative exercise about an abstract topic - it's merely a possibility, and it's something they presume is never going to manifest into reality.
I'm guessing they would be immediately singing a different tune if their access to all conservative websites and media was blocked, as well as their access to TD so they wouldn't be able to complain about it.
But hey, according to them, the internet belongs to the ISPs, so they're free to do what they want with it.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:57 pm to Cs
Shitty internet and data caps for all
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:59 pm to LSU316
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Good....we need Fiber nationwide at a minimum.
yea and reversing NN gives ISPs no incentive to lay fiber due to lack of competition.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:00 pm to LSURussian
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I'm confident if an ISP did that indiscriminately the market would punish them by customers switching to other ISP's.
except when you live in an area when one ISP has a monopoly.....
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:03 pm to Haughton99
Yeah. I just looked up the senate subcommittee on communications, technology, and the internet...in 2014 republicans got 385k and dems got 377k
Gizmodo.com/how-much-money-big-cable-gave-the-politicians-whose-overs-1657002442
Gizmodo.com/how-much-money-big-cable-gave-the-politicians-whose-overs-1657002442
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:03 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Anyone who believes there is any free market for ISPs should just look at Google Fiber. Google, one of the largest companies on the planet, couldn't push their way through the morass of local regulations and permitting issues to achieve widespread success with Fiber.
Do you know why they couldn't? Because the other telecoms fought them every step of the way. They don't want to compete, they want to mooch of the monopolies that local government have given them.
Do you know why they couldn't? Because the other telecoms fought them every step of the way. They don't want to compete, they want to mooch of the monopolies that local government have given them.
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