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Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by amgslg
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:31 pm to
I'm on the last day of a 10 day national park trip now. Best trip our family has ever done. We were looking to do challenging day hikes in an area of the country we had never been to. We are pretty fit parents with an older teenager.

Flew into Las Vegas and rented car. Spent night in Trump Hotel [bid and won on priceline].

Drove to Grand Canyon South Rim. Stopped at Hoover Dam [park in the "monument bridge Pat Tillman" parking area you see on the right and hike to middle of the bridge for best pic of dam then drive across dam, park for free on other side, walk to middle of dam, take pictures and then leave. Don't do tour or go to visitors center. Mass chaos.]. Got off highway at Seligman for shakes at Delgadillo's Snow Cap on rte 66.

Grand Canyon [3 nights]: Stayed in Kachina Lodge which was small room but next to rim so good. First evening, took shuttle to Hopi Point to watch sunset. Walked back a bit on rim trail and then hopped on shuttle back to room. The next morning we hiked S. Kaibab trail to Cedar Ridge then back up. Great hike. 3 miles roundtrip. That afternoon we went to visitor's center and museum and walked rim back to hotel from visitor's center. The next morning Dad and son hiked down Bright Angel trail to Plateau Point [12 miles roundtrip] while I hiked most of the rim trail towards Hermits Rest, hopping on the shuttle every once in a while for a break. Awesome day.

Drove to Page, Az. [one night] Stopped at Horseshoe Bend which was terrifying and nobody in the family really enjoyed it. Payoff wasn't worth the dusty hike through the desert. Did the Antelope Canyon tour with Ken's Tours. Nice. Spent the night at a nice Hampton Inn. The next morning we did the mountaintop jeep tour with Jeep Lake Powell which was wonderful. Drove that afternoon to Bryce Canyon National Park.

Bryce Canyon NP [one night] when we arrived, we drove to the end of the road along the rim at Yavimpa Point, had a snowball fight, and then stopped at each overlook on way back. Ate dinner in the lodge. Stayed overnight in lodge/cabin room which we loved. Very convenient. The next morning we did the "figure 8" Queens Garden, Peekaboo Loop, Navajo Loop hike. [6 or 7 miles total] Fantastic but challenging. Drove that afternoon to Zion NP.

Zion NP [3 nights] On the drive in, we did the Canyon Overlook Trail which is BEFORE the tunnel on the right side. Then we checked in to Cable Mountain Lodge in Springdale, UT which I highly recommend because it is the closest hotel to park and you just walk across the pedestrian bridge right behind the hotel and you are at the park visitor's center. The first afternoon, we rode shuttle to the very end and walked the Riverside Trail to the opening of the Narrows. The second day, we did the Weeping Rock hike [don't recommend, just meh] and then the Hidden Canyon hike [definitely recommend]. Because we were already one mile up that mountain, we said, what the hell, let's add on Observation Point which was phenomenal but did add an additional 6 miles. This makes for a 10 to 11 mile day with lots of elevation gain but we thought it was fantastic. The next day, I hiked the Watchman trail which I really enjoyed while dad and teenager did Angels Landing to Scout's Lookout [I told dad I would divorce him if he took my kid any further than that -- lots of deaths on the stretch after that point and, in any case, Observation Point hike was sketchy enough]. Then we met up at lodge and did Grotto trail to Kayenta to Emerald Pools then Lower Emerald Pools back to lodge.

Driving back to LV tomorrow.

Regrets:
(1) going to the visitor's center at the dam. It was so crowded we stood there, looked around, then walked back to car on other side of dam.
(2) that I didn't buy hiking poles until halfway through the trip
(3) only one night in Bryce. This was a really nice park and if we had a second night, I would have hiked the rim trail or the "under the rim" trail.
(4) That we didn't rent a motor home. They are ALL OVER Arizona and in every NP and gas station. Much cheaper than the cost of hotel rooms plus rental car and we wouldn't have had to pack and unpack repeatedly. We saw Cruise America, El Monte RV and BackroadsRV. Nice campgrounds in each NP [not sure about hook-ups though]
(5) that we didn't do this sooner

Tips:
Every day each person left with a bag that had water bottles [and/or camelbaks depending on length of hike], PB and J sandwiches, nuts, jerky, gummy candies, pretzels, protein bars, etc... I also had camera, sunscreen [and chapstick with spf], sunglasses and hats. Weather was variable. Hiking boots are a must and I had bought the guys zip-off leg Columbia pants from Amazon. The Columbia fishing shirts are good for keeping cool while protecting you from the sun. Cell phone service is non-existent when you are IN the park just fyi. I packed a suitcase with all of the snacks we needed that I bought at Costco, a few clothes detergent tabs, and our backpacks. On way to GC, we stopped at Wal Mart in Kingman I think and got bread and PB and J and bottled water, beer, and cokes and a cheap ice chest which we kept going during the trip. Saved tons of money. Ate breakfast bars for breakfast, pb and j and snacks for lunch while hiking on the trail. Dinners out.

It was fantastic, and we are now planning our next NP trip which will be Rocky Mountain NP this summer.

Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12445 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:16 am to
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Flew into Las Vegas and rented car.


It's a great generic start to a road trip. Cheap flights and cars and a good starting point. I've done this 4 times and only spent one night in Vegas. Usually I start by hitting a Walmart after an early flight and buying cheap camping gear.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19264 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 9:09 pm to
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It was fantastic, and we are now planning our next NP trip which will be Rocky Mountain NP this summer.

1) Bear, Emerald, Dream Lake hike. Best in the park, but show up about 5:30 AM to avoid all the nasty people. You might consider camping near the trailhead?
I'd recommend starting up Glacier Creek Gorge and seeing Mills Lake with Long's Peak in the background then heading over to all the lakes. This is the scene featuring Long's Peak is on the Colorado quarter, and deservedly so.

So, all of that is very close together on the east side of the park not far from Estes Park. I did everything mentioned above (plus more) on a single day hike. I think it was about 10 miles, but not terribly difficult. I'm looking forward to doing it all again this summer with gf this time.

2) On the west side, the Alpine Visitor Center will me mad with people, but great hiking can be found around Milner Pass. Mt. Ida was a challenging 10 mi out and back hike, but well worth it. We saw a herd of longhorn sheep, and took in views of unspeakable panoramas. We started that hike around 5:15 am and were welcomed by grazing elk around the lake near the road. Euphoric.
I will not be doing that one this summer. Instead we will be backpacking the Never Summer Wilderness, which can be seen from the entirety of the Mt. Ida trail...it's just across Trail Ridge Rd. from RMNP.

3) I'd consider visiting the Mummy Range in RMNP to avoid the crowds and check out some wildlife. Mt. Ypsilon is a popular trail there, meaning you might see two or three other groups of hikers.

Sounds like ya'll had a great trip! We too are starting out in that direction.
Santa Fe, Grand Canyon, Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef, Canyonlands, Arches, La Sal Mountains, Durango, Yampa, Steamboat, RMNP, Beaver Creek/Vail, home

MILLS LAKE and LONG'S PEAK


LONG'S PEAK headed toward the Lakes Trail (very few people out this way)


IDA
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