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re: MS-13 Could Be Labeled Terrorist Organization

Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:37 am to
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I don't have a thousand words, so here's a picture instead.


?? What point is that supposed to make??
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57349 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:22 am to
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Posse Commitatus is there for a good reason.


To give the 1876 election to Rutherford B. Hayes?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Time to scale back Posse Comitatus
Wow. And the authoritarians win again - making people willing to sacrifice rights.

13 aren't terrorists. They're street punks. They have no political agenda.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57349 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:24 pm to
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?? What point is that supposed to make??



That George Bush met with Daniel Noriega? I don't get the connection to MS-13, either.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57349 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:27 pm to
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Wow. And the authoritarians win again - making people willing to sacrifice rights.


How would scaling back PC be a sacrifice to any rights?

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13 aren't terrorists. They're street punks. They have no political agenda.



You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
Posted by DawnOwl
Member since Jan 2017
10 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:49 pm to
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MS-13 Should Be Labeled Terrorist Organization


Why hasn't this happened already.

Go look up a TV series titled Gangland. It was shown on the History channel.

MS-13 is terribly violent. They make BLM look like a dog and pony show.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:14 pm to
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How would scaling back PC be a sacrifice to any rights?
Conscripted forces used to sweep through civilian areas and round people up? No, you're right. Nothing wrong with that. People should just be able to casually do that.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted by beastieboys
South Jordan, UT
Member since Jan 2008
2190 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:17 pm to
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MS-13 is terribly violent. They make BLM look like a dog and pony show.


MS-13 has been the most vicious street gang for nearly a decade.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57349 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:29 pm to
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Conscripted forces used to sweep through civilian areas and round people up? No, you're right. Nothing wrong with that. People should just be able to casually do that.


That's not what the Posse Comitatus act does.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:07 pm to
Using the military for domestic purposes, in this case combatting MS-13, is exactly what you're saying when you say we should "scale back" the policy.

Unless you don't understand what you're saying. Either way, relaxing laws that were applied for good reason is a horrible idea, and one that opens up a can of worms that could extend far beyond the singular purpose you suggest.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:12 pm to
Completely agree.

What about the other street gangs; bloods, crips, cowboys, etc...

They run the same outfits, maybe just not to the same extremes.
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