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re: Leonard Fournette and the saints visiting

Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:43 pm to
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No, I'm being rational. 


Comparing statements given by Mel Kiper to ones given by Gil Brandt isn't being very rational.

Who the hell is Mel Kiper?

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The SI story alleges that Wichard and Luchs called Kiper when the agents were meeting with Stanford defensive lineman Willie Howardin 2000. As the story goes, Wichard told Kiper he was meeting with the best defensive lineman in college football. To which, Kiper responded by saying Wichard must be in the room with Howard. The tone of the article suggests that Wichard called Kiper in advance so they could ham it up about Howard and get him to sign with Wichard.

The story also implies that Kiper rates Wichard's clients more favorably in his rankings, which appear on ESPN, ESPN.com and in Kiper's books published by Mel Kiper Enterprise Inc.


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Kiper has faced scrutiny in the past about his involvement with agents. In April of 2009 when Kiper had Clausen rated as the top quarterback (ahead of Sam Bradford) and fourth overall, the Washington Post said there were whispers about the draft analyst's friendship with Wichard. 


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Gil Brandt: The Draft Guru Who’s Seen It All

Over six decades as a scout, personnel boss and analyst, the man who helped invent sophisticated player evaluation has watched the NFL’s annual talent roundup evolve from seat-of-the-pants to a year-round, made-for-TV (and internet) spectacle. One thing that hasn't changed: the qualities that make a prospect ready for the pros




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There were five characteristics that were common to every position: 1) character, 2) mental alertness, 3) quickness, agility and balance, 4) strength and explosion and 5) competitiveness and aggressiveness


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BRANDT: The same characteristics I talked about in scouting players, those five characteristics, are still en vogue today. Maybe the weights of them change, maybe we put less of an emphasis on strength and explosion for a quarterback and more on mental alertness, because the game has become so intellectual. But I think the five characteristics we started with in 1961 are still the same characteristics. And I think most of the position specifics are the same, though in-line blocking was probably more important in the past than it is now, and pass protection back then was probably less important. So you change the weighting system, and the way you change it is you look to see what leads to success and what leads to failure. 


This is a must read for anyone attempting to learn the scouting process
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:46 pm to
Look man, let's agree to disagree on it.


I strongly believe Fournette is the most gifted RB in this class, and I think he will be realllllly good, potentially great depending on where he ends up. I just believe in waiting to see them play (in this case taking NFL snaps) before I'll say if he's headed toward the HoF


I will read the article, though.
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