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re: Tonights softball game against McNeese is cancelled!
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:07 pm to Bhs83
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:07 pm to Bhs83
I stated this before that unless they have the offensive tools of Landry where they can hit the ball out the infield and into the gap slappers are becoming essentially not existent and useless these days. Notice the defensive alignments of teams now whenever true slappers are at the plate. It has become ridiculously easy to pitch and defend as its extremely predictable. The touch and go/ or bunting does not work when everyone is playing so far in on the infield.
When Griggs first came here she had a lot of success because she was new to the conference. Her numbers have been going down and she has been struggling because everyone knows how to attack these slappers now. When Landry is at the plate everyone has to play normal defense since she can drive the ball anywhere in the park, this allows her to bunt her way on at times as well. Its also what made Simmons so special, she can hit the ball into the gap as well. As of now I think Griggs needs to just swing away.
Its really ashame we can't help Jaquish out, she essentially not existent now since we can't protect her at the plate. Ole Miss is no slouch either so we will see if some of these minor things aren't being worked on.
When Griggs first came here she had a lot of success because she was new to the conference. Her numbers have been going down and she has been struggling because everyone knows how to attack these slappers now. When Landry is at the plate everyone has to play normal defense since she can drive the ball anywhere in the park, this allows her to bunt her way on at times as well. Its also what made Simmons so special, she can hit the ball into the gap as well. As of now I think Griggs needs to just swing away.
Its really ashame we can't help Jaquish out, she essentially not existent now since we can't protect her at the plate. Ole Miss is no slouch either so we will see if some of these minor things aren't being worked on.
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:09 pm to TigerBait55
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Georgia's schedule has been complete hell. I feel for them a little bit, but they are one of those teams, if given the right draw, can make some noise.
Georgia really isn't a bad team they have had just a ridiculous schedule.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:10 pm to Tigerbait357
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Ole Miss is no slouch either so we will see if some of these minor things aren't being worked on.
Tomorrow vs. Corbello & McNeese should be no walkover also.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:14 pm to TigerBait55
Georgia is missing the pretty girl that pitched for them for four years, and Alex Hugo, as well as the girl that coaches first base for them.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:14 pm to Tigerbait357
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I stated this before that unless they have the offensive tools of Landry where they can hit the ball out the infield and into the gap slappers are becoming essentially not existent and useless these days.
Oklahoma, Michigan, Auburn some of the teams getting away from slappers. Totally agree with you.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:17 pm to doya2
i was reading the bio for Mississippi States assistant coach, thought i had seen him in Hattiesburg a few times. Anyway, the bio talks about his philosophy and you can tell he is no fan of slapping. Maybe thats why Mississippi State can surprise just about anybody. They are getting better, so is Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Everybody is creeping up on us.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:18 pm to Tigerbait357
As far as the next class, we do have Sunseri, Caccamise, Antoine, and Goff. We originally had Martinez, an infielder from Texas who was a top 100 prospect but we pulled her offer since she was a headcase that Beth didn't want on the team. Its ashame, she was a damn good hitter too. She hit like 16 doubles and 6 triples here sophomore year with like 4 homers.
Sunseri is the real deal, the girl is a pitcher but also can play on the infield. She swings the bat, she has good height as well. On the recruiting board the other day I posted an update on her. She has huge slugging numbers this year.
Caccamise plays in San Diego, she is very interesting. She plays against great talent and plays for a great travel ball team. She is a catcher who swings away as well. Her power numbers have been a little erratic since her freshman year. She broke onto the seen a few years ago hitting well while playing travel ball. She is hitting fine this year around .450 but not many doubles or homers but who knows what will happen when she gets here.
Antoine is a slapper but she actually does have power. She hit a bunch of extra base hits last year and she already has like 5 or 6 homeruns this year as a lead off for her squad. She definitely is not your Griggs model but she does drive the ball out the infield so I like what we have to work with her. She was a heavily recruited prospect as well
Goff, is the only player in this class I have not seen or head anything about so I can't say anything about her.
Sunseri is the real deal, the girl is a pitcher but also can play on the infield. She swings the bat, she has good height as well. On the recruiting board the other day I posted an update on her. She has huge slugging numbers this year.
Caccamise plays in San Diego, she is very interesting. She plays against great talent and plays for a great travel ball team. She is a catcher who swings away as well. Her power numbers have been a little erratic since her freshman year. She broke onto the seen a few years ago hitting well while playing travel ball. She is hitting fine this year around .450 but not many doubles or homers but who knows what will happen when she gets here.
Antoine is a slapper but she actually does have power. She hit a bunch of extra base hits last year and she already has like 5 or 6 homeruns this year as a lead off for her squad. She definitely is not your Griggs model but she does drive the ball out the infield so I like what we have to work with her. She was a heavily recruited prospect as well
Goff, is the only player in this class I have not seen or head anything about so I can't say anything about her.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:19 pm to Tigerbreathe
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Well...I think this guy is spot on.
Well, no not really. More like a guy that doesn't know much about softball. Who pitches Sunday isn't determined by previous results always, its determined by giving the other team different looks.
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LSU’s pitching did its part, though there were some curious coaching decisions. The most apparent was Carley Hoover only pitching two innings of relief in Sunday’s game and not starting any of the three games. The other, was not starting Sydney Smith in the Sunday finale instead of Allie Walljasper. Smith was coming off a shutout victory in Saturday’s game, allowing just six base runners. While Walljasper wasn’t necessarily bad, she had given up three runs and six hits in Friday’s loss.
Carley had some sort of injury and couldn't pitch til Sunday. And starting Walljasper Sunday over Smith was absolutely the right move. After Walljasper gave up the 3, she pretty much shut them down.
The questionable move was the choice of relievers Sunday. If you know Hoover can go, she should have started the 5th, not Smith. Hoover was humming the ball so hard it was going to take Alabama at least 2 times through the order to adjust.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:30 pm to Tigerbait357
Is the Martinez girl from Hays Consolidated in Buda? (Between Austin and San Marcos)
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:33 pm to 18handicap
Also, for those of you who dislike slappers, I tend to disagree with you. I like having 3 in my lineup and when they have all of the tools like Landry... slapper, drag hunter, power slapper, regular hitter... they are pretty damn lethal.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:03 pm to 18handicap
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Is the Martinez girl from Hays Consolidated in Buda? (Between Austin and San Marcos)
Yes
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:07 pm to 18handicap
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Also, for those of you who dislike slappers, I tend to disagree with you. I like having 3 in my lineup and when they have all of the tools like Landry... slapper, drag hunter, power slapper, regular hitter... they are pretty damn lethal.
That was what I was saying. Maybe I worded it wrong but I like slappers when they have the tools Landry has as she can bunt, power slap, stand up and hit, its completely unpredictable. Thats why she has put up ridiculous numbers. Now as far as Griggs goes she doesn't happen to have the tools that Landry has unfortunately, she can't really slap for power, she struggles a lot to get the ball out the infield unless she drives it up the middle.
I am not saying slappers are useless but they need to have multiple dimensions in their games besides tapping the ball on the infield and sprinting to first base, its becoming much easier to defend these days. Griggs would have much more success if she could drive the ball into the gap but she isn't able to slapping right now. Personally I want to see her swing more, if she can have success with that it will open it up for her to be able to bunt her way on much easier.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:08 pm to Tigerbait357
I'll leave my comments about her former and current HS coaches to myself... interesting to say the least.. lol.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:10 pm to 18handicap
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I'll leave my comments about her former and current HS coaches to myself... interesting to say the least.. lol.
Don't even want to know
I can only imagine
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:14 pm to Tigerbait357
I used to teach mine to read the defense and make decisions on what they do based on what the defense was giving them..
Here's a good one for you... one year I had very good slappers at 1,2,& 9, but I had a lefty at 3 who wasn't a slapper, but a pure power hitter. I decided for kicks to teach her how to just run through the pitch and either take or just miss. I wanted to try this when 1 & 2 slappers got on. She got so good at showing this that she had the defense so messed up. When she ran through the 1st pitch, the defense would charge on the next pitch and she would stand in and knock the crap out of the ball through the charging infielders. It played the defense's mind so much that it became a big part of our offense, especially when the #3 decided to learn how to slap to create more uncertainty in the defense. It was really fun to do this!
Here's a good one for you... one year I had very good slappers at 1,2,& 9, but I had a lefty at 3 who wasn't a slapper, but a pure power hitter. I decided for kicks to teach her how to just run through the pitch and either take or just miss. I wanted to try this when 1 & 2 slappers got on. She got so good at showing this that she had the defense so messed up. When she ran through the 1st pitch, the defense would charge on the next pitch and she would stand in and knock the crap out of the ball through the charging infielders. It played the defense's mind so much that it became a big part of our offense, especially when the #3 decided to learn how to slap to create more uncertainty in the defense. It was really fun to do this!
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:15 pm to 18handicap
I just think people have different ideas of slappers. I think everyone wants players in the mold of Landry where she can slap for power and can attack all areas of the field. Like you said and I agree, when you can drive the ball into the gaps, hard out the infield, stand up and hit, it is really a nightmare for all parties because its impossible to really defend. You have to play Landry straight up because she smoke the ball into the outfield a lot and they can't play so up close. Since her offensive range allows her to smack the ball to every part of the field it opens up the infield for her to just bunt herself on.
I just think people don't want these slappers who just continuously try tapping it and pray they can outrun the throw on the infield. I mean Akiya Thymes is like that, Taylor Lockwood from last year was like that as well. Griggs unfortunately has always been like that as well. Coming out of HS, she had like 5 or 6 doubles her entire HS career. She relied on hitting slow rollers and out running the infield. Its now impossible for her to get these hits because you now have 5 infielders and they are all shading to the left side.
I have seen Andrews in practice quite a few times and believe it or not she has a lot more power than what people think and she is very capable of driving the ball out the infield.
We do have a lot of things to clean up at the plate so hopefully we can continue to work as we still have time before post season.
I just think people don't want these slappers who just continuously try tapping it and pray they can outrun the throw on the infield. I mean Akiya Thymes is like that, Taylor Lockwood from last year was like that as well. Griggs unfortunately has always been like that as well. Coming out of HS, she had like 5 or 6 doubles her entire HS career. She relied on hitting slow rollers and out running the infield. Its now impossible for her to get these hits because you now have 5 infielders and they are all shading to the left side.
I have seen Andrews in practice quite a few times and believe it or not she has a lot more power than what people think and she is very capable of driving the ball out the infield.
We do have a lot of things to clean up at the plate so hopefully we can continue to work as we still have time before post season.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:59 am to Tigerbait357
Thought about responding to about a dozen emails. Resisted. All you guys are entitled to your opinion.
Slappers. My brother and I do not like the slappers in baseball in any form. LSU will improve a lot in SEC softball as soon as they get athletes for players/hitters (not pitchers - pitchers do not need to be hitters).
What's an athlete? Check out Bailey Landry. She can be a Pro softball player. Check out all the other Pro softball players. Check out all MLB players. They are defined by # of tools they have. You can bet the # of tools does not include slapping. Slapping is so-so, but it is only a 0 (+1 advantage but -1 disadvantage) tool. That's why most SEC slappers bat less than .270. Yeah, that's right. Check it out. Slapping is almost a sure out. Any form of baseball. Slappers may be good - great in field, but a liability at the plate.
Must be versatile as a hitter. Must present power. Must be a moderately fast runner (Bailey Landry is extremely fast). Must present ability to bunt. Must be able to hit to opposite field. Must exhibit patience at plate (witness Jaquish).
Must have ability to think at plate (like when ball needs to be hit to advance runner). For instance - don't hit to SS with runner at 2nd when a hit to the right side would advance runner to 3rd for maybe a run with next batters' fly out to the outfield. This goes back to selecting an outside pitch and ability to hit to opposite field (for a RH batter, in this example).
IMO, the more the teams in the 60' base SEC softball game approach tactics of the 90' baseball game the more successful they will be at softball.
Did I say I do not like slappers in softball? Do not try slapping in baseball? Pretty much, do not try that tactic in softball anymore. That tactic of slapping in softball has come and gone, IMO. At least for college SEC softball level and above.
We have (currently) maxed out women's speed/ability/BA/OB%/RBI, etc. re. slappers in softball with 60' bases (IMO). Winners of top awards (all levels) will have versatile players that include many more power/speed women players. Very few slappers. Again, IMO.
Love LSU softball
Slappers. My brother and I do not like the slappers in baseball in any form. LSU will improve a lot in SEC softball as soon as they get athletes for players/hitters (not pitchers - pitchers do not need to be hitters).
What's an athlete? Check out Bailey Landry. She can be a Pro softball player. Check out all the other Pro softball players. Check out all MLB players. They are defined by # of tools they have. You can bet the # of tools does not include slapping. Slapping is so-so, but it is only a 0 (+1 advantage but -1 disadvantage) tool. That's why most SEC slappers bat less than .270. Yeah, that's right. Check it out. Slapping is almost a sure out. Any form of baseball. Slappers may be good - great in field, but a liability at the plate.
Must be versatile as a hitter. Must present power. Must be a moderately fast runner (Bailey Landry is extremely fast). Must present ability to bunt. Must be able to hit to opposite field. Must exhibit patience at plate (witness Jaquish).
Must have ability to think at plate (like when ball needs to be hit to advance runner). For instance - don't hit to SS with runner at 2nd when a hit to the right side would advance runner to 3rd for maybe a run with next batters' fly out to the outfield. This goes back to selecting an outside pitch and ability to hit to opposite field (for a RH batter, in this example).
IMO, the more the teams in the 60' base SEC softball game approach tactics of the 90' baseball game the more successful they will be at softball.
Did I say I do not like slappers in softball? Do not try slapping in baseball? Pretty much, do not try that tactic in softball anymore. That tactic of slapping in softball has come and gone, IMO. At least for college SEC softball level and above.
We have (currently) maxed out women's speed/ability/BA/OB%/RBI, etc. re. slappers in softball with 60' bases (IMO). Winners of top awards (all levels) will have versatile players that include many more power/speed women players. Very few slappers. Again, IMO.
Love LSU softball
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:48 am to TaserTiger
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My brother and I do not like the slappers in baseball in any form.
no kidding? quote:
Must be versatile as a hitter. Must present power. Must be a moderately fast runner (Bailey Landry is extremely fast). Must present ability to bunt. Must be able to hit to opposite field. Must exhibit patience at plate (witness Jaquish).
You just described the formula for elite, All American type hitters. Of course this is what you want if you can draw them up on paper. Translation to the field is a different animal.
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Did I say I do not like slappers in softball? Do not try slapping in baseball? Pretty much, do not try that tactic in softball anymore. That tactic of slapping in softball has come and gone, IMO. At least for college SEC softball level and above.
You contradict yourself. Bailey Landry is a slapper. You either like her or you don't. You cannot group all "slappers" together anymore than you can group players of different tool sets together.
You have power slappers and you have touch and go slappers. You have slappers that are somewhere in between. The good ones succeed, the bad ones don't just as any other offensive approach at the plate does. Teams need base runners to be driven in and speed slappers can provide this. Some of these same slappers can then drive the ball when needed, some cannot.
The idea that one style is obsolete or that a certain style is more successful is totally dependent on the skill set or "tools" of the player utilizing this approach. You painted with a broad brush and included some very uninformed statements while painting.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:41 am to Mulerider
Thanks mulerider... that's what I was about to post.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:44 am to Mulerider
when you see a slapper who has a good number of extra base hits, you know they have the tools to benefit the team. The touch and go type aint going to score a runner from second base when they get a "hit".
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