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re: Yadier Molina 2nd best catcher in baseball at 34?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:14 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:14 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I do not think Pudge is better...
I think that Pudge was a great defensive catcher but I also do not think he was better than young Benito Santiago (overall career yes), Yadi, or Bench.
I think that Pudge was a great defensive catcher but I also do not think he was better than young Benito Santiago (overall career yes), Yadi, or Bench.
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:15 am to therick711
I think Grandal is one of the most underrated players in baseball in part due to his abysmal average. But he walks, hits for power and is an excellent pitch framer. He is a top 5 catcher to me.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:15 am to therick711
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He isn't near the top based on reputation so far, though.
i forgot reputation wins baseball games
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:16 am to The Seaward
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I think Grandal is one of the most underrated players in baseball in part due to his abysmal average. But he walks, hits for power and is an excellent pitch framer. He is a top 5 catcher to me.
I disagree. I think he's correctly rated. His numbers are relatively middling, yet people recognize his tools and potential so they elevate him beyond what he has shown thus far.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:16 am to therick711
Grandal always seems so streaky and it seems like he's been around forever but he's only 28. His numbers in the second half last year were excellent. He might have the most raw power of any everyday catcher outside of Sanchez
If he puts it all together over the course of a full year he will be up there with Posey
If he puts it all together over the course of a full year he will be up there with Posey
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:17 am to sms151t
Also Yadi is not now defensively what he was several years ago. I realize you're just saying this stuff to be edgy though so I'll stop
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:17 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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He might have the most raw power of any everyday catcher outside of Sanchez
Lots of power, no doubt.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:18 am to therick711
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His numbers are relatively middling,
.800 OPS and 27 bombs from an above average defensive catcher is middling?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:19 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
No I am not I am saying it because it is my opinion. I am sorry I am not trying to be net cool like you and have a differing opinion.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:19 am to barry
JT Realmuto?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:21 am to barry
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.800 OPS and 27 bombs from an above average defensive catcher is middling?
It was far and away the best year he's had at the plate. Right now it's an outlier
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:22 am to therick711
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I disagree. I think he's correctly rated. His numbers are relatively middling
Last year he had a 122 wRC+ and was the second most valuable pitch framer in baseball (slightly behind Posey). That's not middling to me.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:23 am to iamAG
I would take Posey first, although he'll probably be spending more time at 1B. I really like LuCroy as well, but Molina is just so good.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:24 am to iamAG
Lucroy
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:24 am to barry
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.800 OPS and 27 bombs from an above average defensive catcher is middling?
You're cherry picking two categories from one year. That's fine, but you have to acknowledge that a more holistic look at his entire body of work doesn't tell that kind of story. It should be noted that he wasn't even a qualifier at Catcher last year based on his playing time. Very interesting player, though.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:24 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It was far and away the best year he's had at the plate. Right now it's an outlier
His wRC+ last year was 122. Career is 119.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:24 am to iamAG
The answers in this thread will be heavily fantasy driven. You can't measure Molina's intangibles.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:25 am to barry
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i forgot reputation wins baseball games
Reputation as used there means the reputation he's earned by his play thus far in his career.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:25 am to The Seaward
What was it before last year?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:26 am to Lester Earl
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JT Realmuto?
He can hit, his defense is getting better and he is pretty good at controlling the running game.
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