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Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:48 pm to Fun Bunch
Not really that awful
Basically the deal was: Cooks + our 4th for Butler + their 3rd.
We needed a CB really bad and we have more talent at WR than any other position
No brainer IMO
Basically the deal was: Cooks + our 4th for Butler + their 3rd.
We needed a CB really bad and we have more talent at WR than any other position
No brainer IMOPosted on 3/14/17 at 8:49 pm to Rand AlThor
It make the Saints better. Without a doubt.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:50 pm to Rand AlThor
Let that baw be dramatic.
Nice deal for the Saints
Nice deal for the Saints
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:51 pm to keakar
Well technically we got to move up a round because we were left holding the bill (no pun intended) while the Butler situation got handled. From what I understand both parties viewed this as an even trade.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:54 pm to Lester Earl
It's not a "nice deal".
But it does make us better. frick it. It's done.
Get some pass rushers.
But it does make us better. frick it. It's done.
Get some pass rushers.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:54 pm to Rand AlThor
As much as I hate all this as a whole, we did need to get a top notch corner.
Compensation aside (which is what is ticking me off), I think the trade actually benefits us more than them.
We are desparate for a top corner, someone proven. We have 4 young guys with potential. What good would drafting a fifth guy with potential be? We needed a legit 1.
And we have two legit receivers, a TE who is a capable receiver, a back who is a capable receiver, and we just signed Ginn. Receiver was a position we could spare (as much as I hate losing Cooks speed).
On the other hand, did the Pats really need another receiver? Does Cooks actually fit what they can do with what he can do? Isn't Ryan also a FA, meaning they'd be short on corners?
Compensation aside (which is what is ticking me off), I think the trade actually benefits us more than them.
We are desparate for a top corner, someone proven. We have 4 young guys with potential. What good would drafting a fifth guy with potential be? We needed a legit 1.
And we have two legit receivers, a TE who is a capable receiver, a back who is a capable receiver, and we just signed Ginn. Receiver was a position we could spare (as much as I hate losing Cooks speed).
On the other hand, did the Pats really need another receiver? Does Cooks actually fit what they can do with what he can do? Isn't Ryan also a FA, meaning they'd be short on corners?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:57 pm to bonethug0108
When Bill sets his mind on something no one stands in his way. Why would they? Look at his record. He's been envious of Cooks ever since the joint practices. I think it's a great deal for us and for them. It was clear it was a cancerous situation with both players for both teams.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:58 pm to Fun Bunch
Just imagine this situation happens:
We get Butler. We draft Barnett.
Suddenly our DL is: Cam-Rankins-Fairley-Barnett with rotations coming in from Onyemata, Davison, Kikaha, Okafor.
Behind them: Robertson-Klein-Ellerbe at LB with Stupar backing them up
In the secondary: Butler, Breaux locking down the outside. PJ Williams, Swann, a newly re-signed Sterling Moore manning the slot. Big ol' Crawley backing up Butler and Breaux on the outside. KV, who was killer last year, in the box. Bell manning the top, with the underrated Erik Harris backing him up.
It looks promising man. Hell of a lot more talent than we've had on that side in a while
We get Butler. We draft Barnett.
Suddenly our DL is: Cam-Rankins-Fairley-Barnett with rotations coming in from Onyemata, Davison, Kikaha, Okafor.
Behind them: Robertson-Klein-Ellerbe at LB with Stupar backing them up
In the secondary: Butler, Breaux locking down the outside. PJ Williams, Swann, a newly re-signed Sterling Moore manning the slot. Big ol' Crawley backing up Butler and Breaux on the outside. KV, who was killer last year, in the box. Bell manning the top, with the underrated Erik Harris backing him up.
It looks promising man. Hell of a lot more talent than we've had on that side in a while
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:59 pm to bonethug0108
Still have a lot of picks and don't need to spend one on a CB.
OLB, DE, S, WR, RB, TE, OL, QB all areas they can address.
OLB, DE, S, WR, RB, TE, OL, QB all areas they can address.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:00 pm to bonethug0108
Nothing is certain in the draft. Even the Pats have misses in the first round. I've always had the opinion that draft position is almost never indicative of a person's work ethic or their ability to learn the game. Physical ability is easy to assess but it's only a part of the winning formula.
Both teams get proven players that play better than a lot of other 1st rounders at their respective positions. Look at P Rob... 1st round pick and a fairly safe pick but he was average at best.
Both teams get proven players that play better than a lot of other 1st rounders at their respective positions. Look at P Rob... 1st round pick and a fairly safe pick but he was average at best.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:03 pm to bountyhunter
I thought that was interesting today with Jordan Cameron. He said that he doesn't love football, and how tons of guys who play don't. Thats a hard trait to find I bet, especially because every guy in the process is obviously going to lie and say they love the game. But I'd imagine an actual love for the game has a high correlation with success.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:03 pm to bountyhunter
Yup, which is why we needed to do this. We needed a corner that already proved he's good. We don't need a rookie who may never pan out.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:04 pm to bountyhunter
Sign Hawkins and we're set at WR and CB.
Can prioritize DE, LB, and FS.
...and RB imo.
Would it have been better to give a second or third? Sure. But we put ourselves in position to have the best corner group in the Payton era. Butler is a stud. Has been since day 1.
Every Pats CB to go through there is great though cause of the scheme so idk....
Can prioritize DE, LB, and FS.
...and RB imo.
Would it have been better to give a second or third? Sure. But we put ourselves in position to have the best corner group in the Payton era. Butler is a stud. Has been since day 1.
Every Pats CB to go through there is great though cause of the scheme so idk....
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:05 pm to Rand AlThor
Kuechly LOVES the game. Brees LOVES the game. You can see it in some guys' play when they truly love the game.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:06 pm to drake20
quote:
Sign Hawkins and we're set at WR and CB.
Can prioritize LB and FS.
...and RB imo.
You think we're set at DE/pass rusher?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:07 pm to drake20
We already passed on Hawkins, and honestly don't NEED another one (though a better option than Coleman would be nice).
We also don't NEED a HB. We'll sign someone to back up Ingram and maybe take one in the draft.
We also don't NEED a HB. We'll sign someone to back up Ingram and maybe take one in the draft.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:07 pm to TigerBait1127
No. Fixed. Just skipped it, cause everyone and their mom thinks we're going there with pick 11
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:08 pm to TigerBait1127
Well I would be shocked if they don't get a QB in the draft. Depends on what their scouts are reporting at this point. That unfortunately I have no information on.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:12 pm to bonethug0108
Don't NEED one, but I think still could use a third down back. Sean agrees. Spiller, too much Cadet usage, etc.
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