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re: Eisenberg's Luthor vs. Leto's Joker

Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:08 pm to
The key to fighting Superman, outside of kryptonite, is to use his morals and ethics against him. He would save a continent, AND save a puppy across the world, if he could; and you have to force him to figure out how to do both, and then the bad guy too.
Because he will instantly win if you don't force him into an ethical dilemma.

Problem with the movies is that they've already made him concede his ethics at times, without showing us the immense power he has. He's not Superman, he's fast and strong flying guy. There's really nothing that the real Lex would find annoyingly wholesome about him, he's just a powered up dude that even Batman mistrusts. That just isn't working. Might be good for CGI and angst, but it isn't TRUE Superman.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109887 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:14 pm to
I do think Superman is lacking one thing in his Rogue Gallery which is obvious: a super powerful villain who wants to conquer the world and isn't from space. I mean really, save for Luthor, all the villains that fit this criteria, Earth is really nothing to them and they are extraterrestrial.

Give us a villain that can kick Superman's arse, he's born and raised on Earth, and he wants to conquer the planet. Basically make him everything Lex Luthor fears about Superman himself.

That is sorely lacking in his Rogue Gallery. Save for Luthor, none of Superman's Earthbound antagonists are nothing more than thugs who don't care about power. It's a huge flaw.
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