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re: Why can't people understand that socialized medicine will ultimately fail?

Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:38 am to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:38 am to
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Ball game. My uncle's best friend from England died due to the socialized medicine over there. He had to wait 6 months for a doctor's appt. When the time came for his appt, they called and asked if he had any new symptoms. When he said no, they canceled his appointment. Unbeknownst to him, his emphysema had developed into lung cancer. by the time he saw a doctor, it was stage 4. frick socialized medicine!

That's a pretty shitty scenario, but it sounds like smoking killed your uncle's best friend. Also, emphysema cannot "turn into" lung cancer. He had emphysema and also developed lung cancer. The diseases have completely different processes and one cannot lead to the other, though they can have a common cause (probably smoking, since smoking is the leading cause of both emphysema and lung cancer).

I'm guessing it was smoking because the second leading cause of lung cancer, radon gas exposure, does not cause emphysema.

With that said, he should have been diagnosed sooner because it sounds like he was a high risk individual and should have been screened for lung cancer more thoroughly. It probably wouldn't have saved his life though... I'm not sure if patients with emphysema are surgical candidates. He was in very bad shape, from the sound of it.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:40 am to
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That's a pretty shitty scenario, but it sounds like smoking killed your uncle's best friend. Also, emphysema cannot "turn into" lung cancer. He had emphysema and also developed lung cancer. The diseases have completely different processes and one cannot lead to the other, though they can have a common cause (probably smoking, since smoking is the leading cause of both emphysema and lung cancer). I'm guessing it was smoking because the second leading cause of lung cancer, radon gas exposure, does not cause emphysema.


What does this have to do with the wait time that was reported?
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:50 am to
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, but it sounds like smoking killed your uncle's best friend

No doubt

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Also, emphysema cannot "turn into" lung cancer. He had emphysema and also developed lung cancer.

No shite! You know what I meant.

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he should have been diagnosed sooner because it sounds like he was a high risk individual and should have been screened for lung cancer more thoroughly.

My point exactly. He should have been screened, but his appointments got canceled due to him not reporting any new symptoms. The system is so over loaded and failing, that he couldn't get into a doctor even though he had made his appointment months prior.

The only good that came out of it was that since his appointment got canceled he was able to travel to America to be at my wedding.
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