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re: Whatever........this is a "sicboy crapping on the Switch" thread, cuz reasons

Posted on 3/7/17 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 11:58 am to
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That's the second WiiU mention. The Wii U had brilliant first party titles, almost across the board, I still wonder why you hate the Wii U so much?

It wasn't even a bad system design (the gamepad was odd, not bad).


Um if you think that it is a good console there is nothing really I can say.

It was pretty much lacking in everything. Power, hardrive, awful gamepad, no kind of entertainment hub, almost no third party games, terrible online. I understand you don't care about any of that.

1st party games were not even that great to me.
No 3D Mario and Zelda was dumb IMO. (During it's current gen life cycle)
I enjoyed Mario Kart and 3D world for first party. Great games.
Monster Hunter for 3rd party.
That was pretty much it.
Not a fan of smash brother. Although I get why people love it.
Pikmin is just not a good game IMO. (Came free with my system)
I gave up on the system and sold it before Mario Maker and Xenoblade released but I am sure those games were good.

That is a pretty terrible lineup. I would take the last 3 months of the ps4 over that.


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With SM64 and the 64 controller they were trying to drive the 3D world experience through the controller, so they designed a controller that was almost specifically made for SM64 and OoT. Software lead design for the origin of the 64.


I am of the opinion that regardless of the controller those games would have been great. OoT was still great on my replay with a Wii U pro controller.

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Being like everyone else means they make the same controller for 3 straight generations, ie, Microsoft and Sony. If Nintendo didn't ask themselves "How do we translate 3D world capabilities into a controller," do they make SM64 the way it was?

If, like you want, they said "Naaa, let's just make the SNES gamepad again, but a different color." Can you, with 100% certainty say they create those games exactly like they were? Because that's kind of what you're asking.


I do believe they could and probably would have made a game just as great with a normal controller. That does not even mean I disliked the controller design of the 64.

But when I am buying accessories to avoid using your gamepad, spare me the "We designed this games with the gamepad in mind, that is why it is great." lines.

Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Um if you think that it is a good console there is nothing really I can say.



I never said that. It was a massive failure, that doesn't mean the games were bad.

The console design was awkward, but again, it's Nintendo experimenting. It didn't work, ok, time to reiterate and try again.

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It was pretty much lacking in everything. Power, hardrive, awful gamepad, no kind of entertainment hub, almost no third party games, terrible online. I understand you don't care about any of that.

Actually, I do care, and yes those were all problems, in a way, but none of those things affected the first/second party game library one bit.

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1st party games were not even that great to me.


Agree to disagree

Yoshi's Wooly World? Treasure Tracker? Wonderful 101? I know you mentioned not liking quite a few games, and I get it, not every game is for everyone, not every Nintendo game is for everyone (I really dislike Mario Party games).

What I don't get though is "liking Nintendo" but not liking a large portion of their games. Smash, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, these are all very "nintendo things," very unique, very much part of their ecosystem. it's like you might just want them to be a Mario/Zelda factory for other consoles?

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