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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:04 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:04 am to
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I found the problem.
Did you?

How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:07 am to
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How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?


See here's the problem. Either the Democrats admit they wiretapped Trump and his team with a FISA warrant during a presidential campaign, or they illegally did it without one.

How can they claim they have intercepted conversations that never took place?

Big brother listening to a presidential campaign won't sit well with the American public.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:09 am to
Rexcatur the indy is working hard.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:11 am to
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How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?



From what I've read, and again it's been sourced through anonymous sources, is that Kislyak is suspected of being s spy recruit for Russia. Thus, his communications are routinely intercepted by IC officials. If true, it's possible they were recorded through that manner.

As I understand the FISA warrant only applied to a server in Trump Tower, and related to transactions between it and a known Russian server. It would NOT have allowed anyone to monitor phone calls within Trump Tower, unless there was a separate FISA that has not been leaked.

I'm dubious of a lot of this stuff, but that's at least my understanding of the key issues.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:21 am to
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How was the Kislyak-Flynn phone conversation recorded without a FISA warrant?


Do you understand the difference between a surveillance order that targets the top Russian diplomat in America and surveillance order that targets an American citizen? They are two different things and the existence of one does not impute the existence of the other. There can be a valid FISA order targeting the Russian and not one targeting the American but if that American contacts the Russian his comms can be taken, subject to any relevant minimization procedures.

This is not a hard concept to understand.
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