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How do yall feel about poisoning feral hogs?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:22 am
I'm not very educated on the topic of the actual poison itself. We trap, shoot, and eat a lot of feral hogs at my place in texas. Does anyone know about the program texas is looking to implement? What are yalls thoughts as to possible dangers, etc? Here is a link a buddy sent me this morning to sign a petition against it. Has some info in the link as well.
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:29 am to 4mileduckman
I generally don't like poison because it is difficult to ensure only the nuisance animal eats it.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:40 am to JamalSanders
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I generally don't like poison because it is difficult to ensure only the nuisance animal eats it.
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Also, why not "invite" all hunters to go out, kill them and then serve them to the homeless? Seems like a win-win to me.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:44 am to Wtodd
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Also, why not "invite" all hunters to go out, kill them and then serve them to the homeless?
In theory, yes. In reality, the logistics of this would be a nightmare for land owner, especially if its hunting property and not farm land.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:48 am to Wtodd
people have been hunting them and trapping them for years and the problem has only gotten worse.
At least that is what is reported.. So if hogs really are that big of threat to the country then something else needs to be done.
At least that is what is reported.. So if hogs really are that big of threat to the country then something else needs to be done.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:52 am to LG2BAMA
I agree. Just not sure poisoning is the answer. Maybe an incentive to trap them for a commercial meat industry. Or an incentive based bounty system. More u trap the more tax breaks/ money or grants u get for ur property? Just thinking out loud here.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:01 am to 4mileduckman
It's time to do what it takes to get rid of the problem.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:12 am to 4mileduckman
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I agree. Just not sure poisoning is the answer. Maybe an incentive to trap them for a commercial meat industry. Or an incentive based bounty system. More u trap the more tax breaks/ money or grants u get for ur property? Just thinking out loud here.
I mean they have that here in texas. Last I checked where I lived it was 7 dollars a tail and other places may be even more.
Its legal to shoot them and let them lay.
I really don't have problem poisoning them for a trial period. I mean so what if some raccoons, buzzards and coyotes die along with them.. all of those are species that we have needed to control as well. PSA don't eat any hogs for like 6 months after.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:15 am to Palo Gaucho
What about animals that would consume the dead pigs? Or human consumption? What if a bunch of pigs die in a pond and the fish ingest it? Im just playing devils advocate. But this type of thing could make enemies out of hog hunters and farmers as well. There could be a lot of collateral damage that isn't intended. I know the reason behind it but good intentions have led to a lot of bad sh*t
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:21 am to 4mileduckman
I'm against it, just not ok with poison in the same woods where any animal can have access to it.
I would rather see cage traps and more people hunting them
I would rather see cage traps and more people hunting them
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:24 am to FISH N TIGER
there was some article I read that basically stated we don't have enough hunters to deal with the problem as fast and as much as hogs breed.
Poison is the way of the future for controlling the population.
I know there has been lots of research into poison that minimizes the effects on nuisance species.
It's the golden ticket when somebody gets the patent on the formula.
Poison is the way of the future for controlling the population.
I know there has been lots of research into poison that minimizes the effects on nuisance species.
It's the golden ticket when somebody gets the patent on the formula.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:29 am to 4mileduckman
Think about this: This poison requires a specific feeder for distribution. Supposedly this prohibits access for desirable animals such as deer, squirrels, etc. due to its frame.
How about black bears? How are they certain bears wouldn't be able to obtain the bait through these specific feeders?
Also, do you think every single "applicator" of the bait will buy this specific feeder..Many of you know in the farming business there are a lot of corners cut...
Another issue: Hogs eat the bait, which presumably may leave crumbs near the feeder... how many desirable animals are susceptible now?
What are the toxicity levels when being transferred through the trophic system? Hogs eat bait, something eats hog...what if that something is a bald eagle?
Obviously, we've reached a point with the feral hog population that something major needs to be done...but not sure if the poison is the right answer..
My .02
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only a feral pig can get its head inside to feed on the bait.
How about black bears? How are they certain bears wouldn't be able to obtain the bait through these specific feeders?
Also, do you think every single "applicator" of the bait will buy this specific feeder..Many of you know in the farming business there are a lot of corners cut...
Another issue: Hogs eat the bait, which presumably may leave crumbs near the feeder... how many desirable animals are susceptible now?
What are the toxicity levels when being transferred through the trophic system? Hogs eat bait, something eats hog...what if that something is a bald eagle?
Obviously, we've reached a point with the feral hog population that something major needs to be done...but not sure if the poison is the right answer..
My .02
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:29 am to 4mileduckman
How soon will they die if they eat poisoned food? If a hog eats poisoned food, will it poison a hunter that say, shoots it later that day and then eats it? Is there some way to tell if a hog you have shot has been poisoned?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:30 am to 4mileduckman
From my understanding, the EPA has given the OK to KAPUT to market the poison and that minimal collateral damage should be expected if administered properly. Trials were done in TX before approval was given that had an acceptable level of collateral damage. Of course I wouldn't be in favor if there was a danger to people, but I think pigs are a big enough problem that we should overlook a few nuisance animals dying. My biggest question is, who will be allowed to administer the bait? I could see it having to be certified applicator, and I would be OK with that. I could also envision a cost share program with the state, where a certified applicator would be required to receive funds.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:31 am to gaetti15
Oh i think we have the hunters it's just getting them interested, as well as non hunters that are shooters.It's all about getting the message out and landowners opening up their property, it would be as easy as an add in the paper or social media.Poison is NOT the answer it's just too dangerous for the animals we don't wanna kill as well as what it will do to the water,yes it will end up in the water so now what do u say ? My vote is and always be NO!
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:34 am to gorillacoco
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How soon will they die if they eat poisoned food?
I called the manufacturer several weeks ago to find out more details, according to person I talked with it takes the hog 3-5 days to die after ingestion depending on how much they ate and how big they are. They also said it takes 3-4 weeks for most hogs to become conditioned to the feeder.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:37 am to Palo Gaucho
Where is Bleeding Purple on all this?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:43 am to Palo Gaucho
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quote:Yes
It's time to do what it takes to get rid of the problem.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:43 am to Wtodd
quote:I thought about opening a vertically integrated smoked sausage factory in NWLA.
Also, why not "invite" all hunters to go out, kill them and then serve them to the homeless? Seems like a win-win to me.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:51 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:55 am to FISH N TIGER
quote:Wrong. As a landowner once said, "I'd rather have the hogs that a bunch of hog hunters."
Oh i think we have the hunters it's just getting them interested, as well as non hunters that are shooters.It's all about getting the message out and landowners opening up their property, it would be as easy as an add in the paper or social media.Poison is NOT the answer it's just too dangerous for the animals we don't wanna kill as well as what it will do to the water,yes it will end up in the water so now what do u say ? My vote is and always be NO!
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