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market thoughts...bubble?

Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:14 am
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Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:19 am to
There could be a small bubble but with Trump's tax plan idk.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:30 am to
I always take some gains. Maybe 10% off the top. If you don't take gains and go to some cash, you really don't have any gains, you have unrealized gains.

My thought process is that it is going to go down and correct. Always does. When it does I have readily available cash (the gains I took throughout the life of whichever bull market we are in).

Others like to stay all in, all the time. I don't think that makes sense, but that is a very popular thing to do. In the long run it always seems to work. Unless you are getting ready to retire and the correction happens around that time. Then come the news stories about 70 year olds who can't retire. I always wonder who gave them the advice to not take a realized gain and stay all in.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4596 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:56 pm to
Sounds like you're young and will not a whole lot of skin in the game you shouldn't be getting yourself caught up in what if scenarios with a long term strategy. The market could very well run to 22,000 on the Dow and then correct back to 20,000, then what? You've missed out on all those dividends along the way.

If this money is for a short term goal within 5 years then yea you probably should be shifting your allocation more conservatively.
Posted by chongo
Member since Oct 2014
199 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:46 pm to
Only twice in history has the shiller pe ratio for the s&p 500 been as high as it is now: dot com bubble and the months leading up to black Tuesday (start of the depression). I've switched from buying equities as of late and started targeting bonds, as the yields are looking better and better each day. I'm not sure if a pullback is coming, but the market is certainly overvalued compared to historical trends.

My thesis is one of three things will happen: a) earnings will rise faster than price, justifying current valuations, b) there will be a pullback, or c) current valuations will become the new normal. I'm not dumping equities at this point, but I'm definitely in wait and see mode.
Posted by Dellort
Member since Jun 2014
550 posts
Posted on 2/16/17 at 7:27 pm to
We may be in for a slight pull back when first quarter earnings start coming out and they don't quite match reality.

Until then, I think the market is trying to adjust from an interest rate market into an earnings driven market. This long growth/low interest rate environment is a reason why you can't judge the market just for being a little long in the tooth. We haven't seen a market like this.

All this is building on anticipation of Trump's lower tax plan, if it doesn't go through then watch out!
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