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re: Web Traffic Monitoring
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Wireshark does a lot more than packet analysis, and could easily be setup to do what OP is asking, and then some
Show me all the people out there using wireshark as a forward proxy, i'll wait...
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:09 pm to gmrkr5
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Show me all the people out there using wireshark as a forward proxy, i'll wait...
I could show you all the people that use it for more than packet analysis. Not knowing how to use a tool doesn't mean it won't do something.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I could show you all the people that use it for more than packet analysis. Not knowing how to use a tool doesn't mean it won't do something.
Im fully aware of what wireshark is capable of doing. Doesnt mean it's scalable or even remotely the best solution in this scenario
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:23 pm to gmrkr5
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Im fully aware of what wireshark is capable of doing.
Your comment suggested otherwise.
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Doesnt mean it's scalable
So does this one.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
It's a packet analyzer man, whatever you say. Dont think the OP wants wireshark
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:32 pm to gmrkr5
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Dont think the OP wants wireshark
Probably not. Changes nothing I've said.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Probably not. Changes nothing I've said.
Me neither, it was a bad suggestion. No offense
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:40 pm to gobuxgo5
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seems like they would just use their phones for web searches and personal activity
This is exactly what happens.
My old boss did this kind of crap. He was more focused on preventing us from costing him money as opposed to finding ways for us to make more of it. Instead of nipping something in the bud, he would build a case against employees based on web history and what they were billing. The amount of time he wasted on that could have gone into finding solutions to help keep everyone motivated.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:37 am to gmrkr5
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Me neither, it was a bad suggestion.
Still not an unworkable suggestion if you know what you're doing.
No offense.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:23 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Still not an unworkable suggestion
This statement alone should tell you it was not the right suggestion for this situation.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:25 am to SG_Geaux
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This statement alone should tell you it was not the right suggestion for this situation.
Never said it was. I'm speaking more to the incorrent assertions made.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:41 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:the only person that made an incorrect assertion is you. just because i can carve http traffic out of a capture and filter out destinations, that in no way makes it a viable solution as a proxy or activity monitor tool.
Never said it was. I'm speaking more to the incorrect assertions made.
you can keep saying it is, but it's not
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:42 am to jcole4lsu
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an Untangle u50 with complete software package will run about $1000 for the appliance and $1000/yr for the software
A Meraki MX80 runs about $1450 over at CDW. 3 year subscription runs $1350 there. The MX80 is one of the highest end devices out there.
Here's a cost calculator:
Maraki Cost Calculator
The biggest difference is, if you look at the MX side, is the Stateful Firewall Throughput (simplified terms - how fast you can get to the outside).
If your internet connection is 200-250 Mb range, then anything faster than the 250 is not going to have a lot of benefit unless you plan on upgrading. If you have a Gigabit connection and want full access to it, you're going to need to spend a good bit more.
Be sure to verify that for any device you look into getting. Don't think you're saving a ton of cash only to find out that your 1Gb connection is limited to 500Mbps because of your appliance.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:58 am to GeauxingtoGA
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I understand there's a cost associated with this as with everything but I'm trying to get an idea of what to look at.
What does your network environment look like? Everyone connected to their own desktop, or floating around connecting to the WiFi?
The easiest solution is to throw an appliance like the one you were quoted onto your network and route all traffic through it. There's been some others mentioned, but I've used Lightspeed and Barracuda as well.
If the employees are stuck on one computer you can go with a local solution by installing software on the device. There's a million options out there, but I've only used OpenDNS Umbrella. OpenDNS will run anywhere between $10 to $38 a user, per year..
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:07 am to gmrkr5
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you can keep saying it is
That isn't what I said. You limited your assertion to your knowledge on it. Sorry for pointing that out.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:46 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You're both incorrect. OPs answer is "none of the above". He doesn't need spying software, he needs to not sweat the small stuff so he doesn't have a heart attack in his 50s and keeps perspective of what is actually important in life. If productivity is matching expectations than just be happy your team is delivering that.
You aren't hiring robots and if they aren't allowed to "time steal" when bored by surfing the web, they'll use their phones or just start talking to each other.
If he is looking for said software in the $1500/year range, maybe he should go to a bookstore and ask for the "How do I hire multiple new employees each year?"
You aren't hiring robots and if they aren't allowed to "time steal" when bored by surfing the web, they'll use their phones or just start talking to each other.
If he is looking for said software in the $1500/year range, maybe he should go to a bookstore and ask for the "How do I hire multiple new employees each year?"
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:02 am to gobuxgo5
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Also if I can see real time activity I can tell if they are actually in the office or working remotely from home.
...we have store front that needs to have someone there during business hours
So if this is your main issue, I don't think technology is the answer, I think a schedule of who's allowed to work from home when is.
This is from an article on managing remote call center agents and might be of use too.
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Mandatory Check Ins, Call Logs, and Daily Reports
While you may not be able to call agents into your office, or have them drop off a daily report before the head out for the night, managers can still put in place mandatory check ins and updates from their remote agents. Utilizing a team collaboration or Unified Communications platform, take Slack or HipChat as an example, managers can always be in contact with agents at a moment’s notice, as well as track the online presence. Requiring agents to check in when they start their shift, update their progress on a mid-day lunch break, and check in with their daily report before their shift ends will effectively replace those in person reports. Not to mention, the most popular contact center solutions even provide access to call logs and activity reports from your agents so at a glance, managers can quickly monitor their agent’s daily activity.
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:18 am to gobuxgo5
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You're both incorrect.
Not really. I never suggested he do anything.
In my opinion, his solution doesn't involve anything other than telling his employees what is allowed and basing their effort on productivity.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That isn't what I said. You limited your assertion to your knowledge on it. Sorry for pointing that out.
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:16 am to gobuxgo5
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You're both incorrect. OPs answer is "none of the above". He doesn't need spying software, he needs to not sweat the small stuff so he doesn't have a heart attack in his 50s and keeps perspective of what is actually important in life. If productivity is matching expectations than just be happy your team is delivering that.
You aren't hiring robots and if they aren't allowed to "time steal" when bored by surfing the web, they'll use their phones or just start talking to each other.
If he is looking for said software in the $1500/year range, maybe he should go to a bookstore and ask for the "How do I hire multiple new employees each year?"
i never said "spy software". a forward proxy is the device he is looking for. if you think that's for spying (primarily) youre misinformed.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:17 am
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