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re: Sam Harris on Maher re: Immigration/Muslim Extremists

Posted on 2/4/17 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
3427 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 3:16 pm to
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So you think America needs to get involved into reshaping Islam?


Yes.

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People in religion rely on the "holy Text"...for Muslims that's the Quran...

So their values and beliefs are tied to the Quran.

Talk about that!


I'll try, but I'm not sure what you're asking. If you are making reference to the violent themes in the Quran, I would argue Christianity's texts are loaded with violence and insane ramblings/pronouncements on a number of issues. The difference is that Christians are no longer waging widespread holy war.

Just as Christianity has moderated over time, so too do I hope that moderate Muslims can rein in the wackjobs over time.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55524 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Just as Christianity has moderated over time, so too do I hope that moderate Muslims can rein in the wackjobs over time.



I'm not sure how a Muslim, even a moderate one, can look at the spiritually empty West and think that those values represent a step up. While we enjoy tremendous material wealth that is worlds beyond the wildest imagination, there is no satisfying 'answer' or purpose in Western liberal values. Islam has those, even if the implementation of them ends up being shitty.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 4:04 pm to
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Just as Christianity has moderated over time,


Christianity was founded by a peaceful person that genuinely loved everybody and practiced peaceful and serene ways of living.

It was in the character of christians to moderate and evolve over time.

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so too do I hope that moderate Muslims can rein in the wackjobs over time.




Islam was started by a pedophile, raping, slaving, maiming, pillaging and murdering warlord that consistently sought conquest on people who did not accept his beliefs and that of his followers. And the Koran reflects philosophy and muslims follow it more religiously more than christians do with the bible.

Just ask yourself, why is the mideast still a complete 3rd world shithole despite civilization starting there and existing longer than 1st world countries like Europe and America?

Islam is a scourge that currently holds a monopoly on terrorism and jihad on this Earth and its time to start treating them like it.
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