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Sam Harris on Maher re: Immigration/Muslim Extremists
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:32 pm
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This might cause a little cognitive dissonance for some folks round these parts. Great segment.
This might cause a little cognitive dissonance for some folks round these parts. Great segment.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:53 pm to SleauxPlay
"We have to win over Muslims with our values and ideas"
Ok, that would have been a great moment to lead into about Islam "what values are we trying to get these people to change?" and why?
isn't that hint of arrogance? Worse it's ignorance...
And since Liberals mostly reject Christian values, what values is he really talking about? America's Value of freedom?
This is really a spiritual battle of ideals and values, it can not be won over with Liberal ideology...which keeps moving further away from morally.
Interesting conversation
Ok, that would have been a great moment to lead into about Islam "what values are we trying to get these people to change?" and why?
isn't that hint of arrogance? Worse it's ignorance...
And since Liberals mostly reject Christian values, what values is he really talking about? America's Value of freedom?
This is really a spiritual battle of ideals and values, it can not be won over with Liberal ideology...which keeps moving further away from morally.
Interesting conversation
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:58 pm to SleauxPlay
The muslims want us to change our values as well,
to sharia values
to sharia values
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/4/17 at 3:21 pm to SleauxPlay
Wow, a hard core liberal speaking some truth about Islam. Congrats.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 3:29 pm to SleauxPlay
I like lot of what her said, but I have a few issues:
One, if the media and liberals don't screech about this pause being a "Muslim ban", then we don't lose that particular war of ideas in the first place. Harken back to Obama's pause on Iraq. No one made a fuss and people treated it for what it was. That could have happened here, but liberals couldn't help themselves.
He is wildly overstating the moderate muslim community and their power in the Muslim world. Later in his talk, he even touched on it. We should allow millions of refugees in and give voice to moderate muslims who represent a small minority of thought, and wait for things to change? How many American lives is that worth? Do we need to see the US become Europe, rotting with cultural decay and terrorism, before we say enough? Sharia culture isn't going anywhere. We sure as hell aren't going to "love it away".
He seems to loathe "Trumpians", but he fails to acknowledge that fundamentalist muslims are the other side of the American redneck coin. We should give voice to strong moderare muslims, but we need to marginalize and destroy jihadist and protect our country as well. There is nothing in this travel ban, save liberal rhetoric, that compromises that.
I think he at least recognizes that Trump was born of Obama and modern, progressive mishandling of pretty much everything.
One, if the media and liberals don't screech about this pause being a "Muslim ban", then we don't lose that particular war of ideas in the first place. Harken back to Obama's pause on Iraq. No one made a fuss and people treated it for what it was. That could have happened here, but liberals couldn't help themselves.
He is wildly overstating the moderate muslim community and their power in the Muslim world. Later in his talk, he even touched on it. We should allow millions of refugees in and give voice to moderate muslims who represent a small minority of thought, and wait for things to change? How many American lives is that worth? Do we need to see the US become Europe, rotting with cultural decay and terrorism, before we say enough? Sharia culture isn't going anywhere. We sure as hell aren't going to "love it away".
He seems to loathe "Trumpians", but he fails to acknowledge that fundamentalist muslims are the other side of the American redneck coin. We should give voice to strong moderare muslims, but we need to marginalize and destroy jihadist and protect our country as well. There is nothing in this travel ban, save liberal rhetoric, that compromises that.
I think he at least recognizes that Trump was born of Obama and modern, progressive mishandling of pretty much everything.
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