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Posted on 2/2/17 at 8:25 am to League Champs
Preach brother!!!!
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:38 am to earl keese
He took an entire team built by Saban and did great for three years. When he had his"the best" team created soley by him he was out coached in the national championship game. End of story.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:18 am to Madking
Snowflake is back to make up things
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:25 am to winkchance
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took an entire team built by Saban and did great for three years. When he had his"the best" team created soley by him he was out coached in the national championship game. End of story.
If the team he inherited was so set for titles why did the greatest coach of our generation lose 3 games in year 5 of his tenure?
Oh and 2011-2015 under miles=15 losses 12 conf losses
Saban at lsu =16 losses and 12 conf losses
The years everyone love to shite on miles had a better win loss record than Saban's tenure at lsu.
Before miles arrived lsu had 21 top 15 finishes in our entire history.
I also love how you people act like we would have all that talent regardlessof the coach.
Regardless what you think, Les Miles at lsu wss one of the most successful tenures in SEC HISTORY, let alone lsu history.
I have never seen a fan base more willing to sit on its own accomplishments just because of who the coach was. Never.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 12:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You simply don't understand that Saban came back from Miami a much better coach.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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To be fair he probably just looked at his own posts and if there were responses to them or not.
Thanks for pointing that out to madqueen Rick. That numbskull isn't smart enough to figure that out for him/herself.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:27 pm to winkchance
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He took an entire team built by Saban and did great for three years.
Yes he did do great. Miles did better in each of those three years than Saban did his last year.
Now answer my question that I asked in my first post to you. Are you going to give Miles the same credit for Orgerons success the next couple of years like you are giving Saban credit for Miles success early in his time with LSU.
Or will that frick up your narrative that Miles only won because of what he was left and Orgerons success (providing he is indeed successful) will all be because of Orgeron, giving Miles no credit for what he had stockpiled to pass along to the new coaching staff.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:40 pm to Madking
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he just irks me cause he never talks about what we are discussing The dude used to follow me around hitting downvotes
"Whaaa! Whaaa! Whaaa! People are being mean to me. I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue if you guys don't start treating me with the respect I think I deserve."
Jesus jumped up and down Madcow. Grow a pair and quit acting like you're the best thing since sliced bread. frick!
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:09 pm to tduecen
Booger McFarland never played for Saban.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:37 pm to dgnx6
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He was? I'm sorry, but none of you jackasses were proven correct. Y'all can bang your chest when O actually wins the sec West. Les did it in his first season. Let's see how long it takes da coach eaux.
Actually, Les was never a good coach from the moment he arrived on campus. He just inherited an already recruited national championship team left for him courtesy of Nick Saban.
Therefore, despite Les’ ineptitude, the team was able to win despite Les, and, of course, this created a false impression of Les in the minds of most people and the recruits. Indeed, the support for LSU and recruiting remained at a high level, because everyone thought Les was a great coach, but he really wasn’t, as LSU was winning because of the high level of talent and despite Les.
In fact, in 2007, when we won the national championship, it was a miracle, because Les had caused us to lose two games that season we never should have lost, even though it was obvious that LSU had the best team in the country that year. It took a miracle for that to happen: Had not Pittsburgh defeated West Virginia, we never would have backed our way into the national championship game that year. Which not even Les could have stopped the team from winning.
So again, the accolades continued the false impression people had of Les and so the recruits kept filing in. Then Les’ patina started to slowly wear off, as he started to gradually lose more and more games we shouldn’t have ever lost and, at the same time, started to make more and more obvious stupid idiotic mistakes.
Then, at the same time, people began to realize that Les wasn’t really as good of a coach as most people had first originally assumed. Not to mention, that Les’ offenses were most of the time characteristically pathetic and unremarkable for their lack of creativity. Until it became so obvious that Les was really a very pathetic coach that thankfully he was fired.
I’m betting that in those eleven years that he was head coach of LSU, that had we had someone that could actually coach, we would easily have won at least one or two more national championships during that same period of time if not more.
Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate Les as a person and a human being, because I don’t. He’s seems like he would be a fun guy to have a beer with. However, as a football coach, he was pathetic. Which is why no one would touch him with a ten-foot pole when he was trying to find another job this season. Nonetheless, I wish him all the best, even though Les will never hurt for the rest of his life.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:47 pm to earl keese
Orgeron took Miles Team already and did far better with it then Miles did. What you Miles love affairs don't get is Miles hung it up about 2.5 seasons ago and mailed it in. He was making great teams good. It happens to the best of coaches. His fire was gone and he was not leading the team and getting the most out of them. It happened to Saban and it will happen to Saban again. That is why I was not all that sad to see Saban go. He had also become complacent. If anything, shame on the university for not seeing it and locking Miles into a larger contract when the writing was already on the wall. it will also happen to Orgeron. Most, not all, coaches get to a point where they have had enough or need something new. It shows and it is time to go. It is not a romance, it is a job. Move on.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:52 pm to Spankem
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Because LSU puts as much or more talent into the NFL as Bama.
That under performed at LSU, but over performed once they got to the NFL due to far better coaching.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 2:59 pm to tduecen
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Booger is a hardcore Saban supporter, he was one of his players
Try again.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:09 pm to earl keese
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If that's the case, whatever success Orgeron has next year, be sure to come on here and give Miles the credit he is due.
However, those same players that played for Les played far better for Coach O than they ever did for Les, as for the first time in many years, I and most people really enjoyed watching the offense once Les was canned. It was also fun not to wait until the final minute of the game to find out who was going to win like it was under Les. Indeed, my fingernails have actually grew back once Les was fired and thanks to coach O.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The best coach of our generation with by far the most talent
Whatever you are smoking dude, I want some.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:15 pm to earl keese
Oh the irony you do know other ppl read these posts right?
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:23 pm to Madking
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What happens when arranda and Canada are gone? If Ogeron doesn't do something really big before that happens we are in Barney Rubble trouble.
Well, first of all, both of those guys are going to be here probably for at least three years because they are already making more money than most head coaches. In any event, neither one of them are irreplaceable.
Look dude, Dabo Sweeny was never a coordinator either, and it don't seem to be holding him back, as he just recently beat Nick Saban and Alabama to win the national championship the other day. Being a head coach and a coordinator are completely different animals, which is why so many coordinators have very miserably failed as head coaches.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:31 pm to cmacatl13
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You simply don't understand that Saban came back from Miami a much better coach.
Posted on 2/2/17 at 3:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Agreed. That was my biggest gripe with hiring O. I didnt want a HC so dependant upon his coordinators for the gameplan.
Really...it doesn't seem to hold back Dabo Swinney too much, as he just beat Alabama and Nick Saban to win the national championship the other day. Not to mention, that he has been the head coach of Clemson for the past nine years even though he has never been a coordinator.
Meanwhile, there are countless former coordinators that have miserably failed at being head coaches, as the two jobs are two very different animals.
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