Twins wanted Jose De Leon, Yadier Alvarez, & Willie Calhoun for Brian Dozier

As they should have. Dozier is a 6 win player at a position that the Dodgers were desperate for

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Dozier is a 6 win player at a position that the Dodgers were desperate for

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and we were the only team looking for a second baseman with backup options. That is a ridiculous demand and they better hope dozier starts this year like he finished last year cause that's the only way they will get something like that

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Dozier was a top 10 player last season under a very, very reasonable contract

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dozier was a 6 win player last year. thats really fricking good. but he has never had power numbers like he had last year and forsythes batting metics, launch angle and exit velocity, grade out better than his. i can absolutely applaud the season dozier had last year while being skeptical that he can continue to be a more than a 4 win player down the road and im not going to trade de leon and alvarez and calhoun for that

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The Dodgers fans on here seem to overrate their own guys

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not really, we arent the only group of people that have suggested that both de leon and alvarez would be an overpay and thats before we get into calhoun on top of that

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You have to pay to play.

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and we were already doing that with de leon and other pieces that havent been mentioned yet but probably will

you can say the twins passing up on de leon and a minor piece makes sense for them. i wont argue that even if i would worry that dozier plays like he did during the first half of last year, tanking his value at the deadline. but us saying nah to this and then turning around and grabbing forsythe for just de leon is a much better move

if the twins were really offered both JDL and alvarez and they actually wanted to haggle over a third piece and kept demanding calhoun, then i dont know what to tell you. they greatly over played their hand if this is actually what happened

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dozier was a 6 win player last year. thats really fricking good. but he has never had power numbers like he had last year

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Ya like he doesn't have the most HR out of all 2B the last three seasons

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forsythes batting metics, launch angle and exit velocity, grade out better than his

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And all it equaled was similar numbers to Chase utley last season

As a Cubs fan, thanks for settling on Forsythe.

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De Leon has flat arm syndrome

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I don't know what that is.

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Diaz is relatively unproven

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You mean Alvarez? All minor leaguers are unproven, but he's the Dodgers #1 pitching prospect and maybe their #1 overall prospect.

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Calhoun will be a decent player but never as good as Dozier

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Agree with that. I think Calhoun ends up in LF.

Bottom line for me: I'd rather have Logan Forsythe, Yadier Alvarez, and Willie Calhoun than have Brian Dozier.

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Agree with that. I think Calhoun ends up in LF.

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I think calhoun is going to end up in the AL as a DH

Agreed. Feel the same wayc

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I never said that forsythe had a longer track record of success. I said that I worry about dozier being a player that he was last year

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Well I don't think anyone thinks Dozier hits 40 Hr next year, but if he regresses to 25 he is still a top 10 2B. Should Forsythe regress he is nothing more then a util player. He doesn't exactly have a proven track record

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So Dozier is definitely the better get, but not enough to throw in 12 possible years of control on Alvarez and Calhoun for me.

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The baseball media has over-hyped prospects over the last decade or so. IMO, a player of Dozier's ability can easily be worth that much, just depends if you're willing to take the risk, or the more sure thing.

I'd say it's not farfetched to assume that maybe two of a team's top 10 prospects become everyday players, if even that.