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re: Trump gives "alternative facts" again- Philly Murder rate "terribly increasing"
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:40 pm to Cruiserhog
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:40 pm to Cruiserhog
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insulting the entire police force protecting him while he said it
Murder rate is up 37% this year. I'm sure the police are as frustrated about it as anyone.
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This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:42 pm to PaperTiger
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Did he say "over the last decade"??
Honestly asking.
He said the murder rate in Chicago and Philly is "massively increasing".
Philly police cite last years stats and say that the city murder rate has not risen. 2017 stats say that they are up 37%.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:43 pm to member12
That's what I thought. It got added in to defend an argument.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:43 pm to member12
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So far this year, the murder rate in Philly is up 37%
Yeah in less than a month. If you want to go that route, then during the last five days there have been less. So he still wrong . If you bend over backwards I can bend over backwards further.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:44 pm to LSUTANGERINE
The murder rate in Philly is up 25000% from 1916 levels
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:45 pm to LSUTANGERINE
That's not the issue. He didn't say a time table, so you can't make one up to defend a position.
This is a fact that proved that it's not a blatant lie as you called it.
Good try
This is a fact that proved that it's not a blatant lie as you called it.
Good try
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:46 pm to Cruiserhog
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quote: What are the consequences here? insulting the entire police force protecting him while he said it starting a rift with the administration of Philly those may seem petty to some here, and are minor in the grand scheme of things but my point was Trump needs to learn to read a few notes, take some counsel before he speaks. I watched a pundit tonite that had worked thru three admins and he mentioned that all three wanted to say things at times they just couldnt because of they understood the ramifications.
This. All day and night . Unfortunately only a select few here will admit that . Many will continue to rationalize any and every Miisstatement that he makes.
And some will create threads all of their own to rationalize any misstatements that he has made
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:48 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Up 37 percent.
Only insults people that are afraid of facts.
Only insults people that are afraid of facts.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:52 pm to LSUTANGERINE
New Pres actually gives a crap about black lives and still gets crap about it from the BLM folks..pitiful
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:52 pm to goofball
Yes cause I'm sure that's what he meant.
LMAO.
Continue to cherry pick
LMAO.
Continue to cherry pick
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:54 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Yes cause I'm sure that's what he meant.
So you are denying that the murder rate is up 37% in the city of Philadelphia?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:55 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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“Here in Philadelphia, the murder rate has been steady. I mean... just terribly increasing,”
That was more incoherent than lying IMO. @real had just stated that the murder rate in the 30 largest cities has increased by 14% in the last year (true or false - I dunno), then he tried to make it specific by mentioning Philly since that's where he was, perhaps visibly realized that it didn't support his overall point, went back to it ("just terribly increasing"), and segued into Chicago, which does support his thesis.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:56 pm to Sun God
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The murder rate in Philly is up 25000% from 1916 levels
I'm out of here. It's late. Got to lock up my door so I don't get shot . Obama done got my gun during his gun grab
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:57 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Are you married to Megan Matt?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:57 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Continue to cherry pick
Posting the most up to date stats available on the Philadelphia Police Department's website is cherry picking?
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 10:59 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
This is exactly what I was thinking. I honestly don't think he was talking about Philadelphia, specifically, when he said "terribly increasing." I think his sentence was just fragmented.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:56 am to LSUTANGERINE
Melt cuck bitch MAGA fake news
Posted on 1/27/17 at 2:19 am to LSUTANGERINE
Let me see if I got this right. Obama began this term in office in Jan '13 (same month black lives matter was formed). Using the Philly police numbers, '13 had 246 murders. Obamas term ended post '16, which had 277 murders (in '15 there were 280). So if my math is correct that's an increase of close to 15%.
Now you may not consider 15% 'terribly increasing', but when its a bad thing for someone, 15% is 'terrible'
Now looking at Jan '17, compared to Jan '16, the murder rate is up 37%. So whether you want to look at a year to year trend, or a 4 year trend, murder rates are up 15-37% since the month BLM was formed
So you can choose whatever adjective you want to go with increasing, but increasing at a double digit pace = No Bueno. And could easily be defined as terribly increasing
Oh, and FYI, terribly means: fearfully, frightfully, appallingly, dire, horribly. So yeah, it fits in this scenario
The More You Know
Now you may not consider 15% 'terribly increasing', but when its a bad thing for someone, 15% is 'terrible'
Now looking at Jan '17, compared to Jan '16, the murder rate is up 37%. So whether you want to look at a year to year trend, or a 4 year trend, murder rates are up 15-37% since the month BLM was formed
So you can choose whatever adjective you want to go with increasing, but increasing at a double digit pace = No Bueno. And could easily be defined as terribly increasing
Oh, and FYI, terribly means: fearfully, frightfully, appallingly, dire, horribly. So yeah, it fits in this scenario
The More You Know
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