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re: Baseball Hall of Fame Announcement Thread- Bagwell, Raines, Pudge Elected to HOF

Posted on 1/18/17 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 6:40 pm to
But...why?

He won 20 games once. He played his entire career on dominant teams with awesome offenses. He was never a top five pitcher in baseball. He sometimes wasn't even the best pitcher on his own team. His case for the HOF seems similar to Eli to me. Long career where he stayed healthy and accumulated numbers. Big wins.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 6:42 pm to
Baloo can answer it better than me as he had a long write up about it. But when he was with the O's he was the best player on the team. He was overlooked a lot during his career as well and yes he tailed off at the end but by looking at WAR, JAWS, etc he is over their threshold.

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The 2017 Baseball Hall of Fame class will be announced on Jan. 18. We're using the interim period to examine each of the 34 candidates on the BBWAA ballot. Remember that a player must be named on at least 75 percent of submitted ballots to be enshrined into Cooperstown.
If you're tuning in late, we've already poked at the candidates who will be removed from the ballot after one season. Recently, we've turned our attention to the players earning serious consideration -- and determining whether they merit entry into the Hall or not.
Today, it's Mike Mussina's turn.
Mussina broke onto the ballot in 2014, earning 20.3 percent of the vote. That number has since increased with each successive year, to 24.6 percent in 2015, then to 43 percent in 2016. The trend remains true so far this voting season, as Mussina has been named on 61 percent of public and anonymous ballots -- though that percentage will drop, perhaps by as much as seven percentage points (as it did last year), when private ballots are considered.
The case for Mussina
The argument for Mussina is that he was a high-quality pitcher for nearly two decades. He started 536 games over parts of 18 seasons, compiling more than 3,560 innings. He won 270 games and posted a 3.68 ERA -- or a 123 ERA+, which is the more telling metric given he spent his career in the American League East, pitching in hitter-friendly ballparks. Additionally, Mussina made five All-Star teams; won seven Gold Gloves; finished top-six in Cy Young Award voting; and performed better (per ERA and strikeout-to-walk ratio) in the postseason than not.
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